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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 14 Dec 2015 00:07 - 66182 of 81564

Ten years on: David Cameron the least disliked party leader of a generation

For 72% of his ten years as Conservative leader David Cameron has been more liked - or less disliked - than his Labour or Lib Dem opponents – and still has a higher average approval score than any other leader during that time

On December 6 David Cameron reached his tenth year as Conservative leader, having beaten David Davis with twice as many votes in 2005 on a promise to deliver a “modern, compassionate Conservative Party”. After suffering three electoral defeats under Major, Hague and Howard, with Iain Duncan Smith struggling to convince the party as leader between 2001-2003, Mr Cameron's image overhaul struck a chord with the membership. Since then he has been criticised for evading definition – 'Cameronism' is not something that has stuck – but only three other Conservative leaders in history have survived the ten year mark.

YouGov tracks public ratings of leaders of the three main political parties in England on a monthly basis, providing a rich dataset to analyse the ups and downs of Cameron's time as party leader. There have been fewer highs and lows than with Nick Clegg and Gordon Brown, underlying the reputation of a "steady as you go" politician (the range between his best and worst rating is 1.6, lower than Gordon Brown's 1.7 and Nick Clegg's 2.5, but higher than Ed Miliband's 1). But his average score (4.4) far exceeds any of the other leaders' between 2006 and 2010.

The data shows how much people like each party leader, but on a measure of how well or badly the public think each politician is doing in their job the current gap between David Cameron and his rivals is larger. The last time YouGov asked the question the prime minister's job approval rating was net 0 (47% well, 47% badly) while Jeremy Corbyn's was net -41 (24% well, 65% badly).

Although spending brief periods of time with lower ratings than Brown, Clegg and Miliband, Cameron has spent 72% of the ten year period as the most liked leader. Ed Miliband was most liked for 24% of his tenure, while Nick Clegg's and Gordon Brown's spell as most popular leaders was brief (13% and 11% respectively.

Fred1new - 14 Dec 2015 08:59 - 66183 of 81564

Stan - 14 Dec 2015 20:47 - 66184 of 81564

Due to popular demand from his MAM fan club:

MaxK - 14 Dec 2015 21:06 - 66185 of 81564

Not enough, but some movement on the benefit tourist scam.




David Cameron faces compromise over plans for EU migrants' welfare access


EU commissioner proposes block on claims for first six months, far cry from prime minister’s hopes for four-year exclusion


Alberto Nardelli and Patrick Wintour

Monday 14 December 2015 20.37 GMT



David Cameron’s hopes of restricting EU migrants’ access to welfare could be realised, but only until someone has been resident for six months, as part of a package of reforms already being drawn up inside the European commission.

The proposal falls far short of the four-year exclusion sought by Cameron, but may represent his best hope of a Commission-endorsed reform designed to address the whole issue of free movement.

The proposals drawn up by Marianne Thyssen, the EU commissioner for employment, social affairs and labour mobility, were due to be presented last week, but have now been delayed until the spring to give Cameron greater time to try to negotiate a stronger package.

The proposed access to welfare rules would be based on recent Court of Justice case law, which upheld the fundamental principle that the right to freedom of movement does not give automatic entitlement to social benefits.

The changes would also aim to ensure that rules on unemployment benefits and – critically for Cameron – family allowances are fair to everyone.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/14/david-cameron-faces-compromise-over-plans-for-eu-migrants-welfare-access

Haystack - 14 Dec 2015 21:07 - 66186 of 81564

Corbyn the fascist

Stan - 14 Dec 2015 21:13 - 66187 of 81564

H/S's fascination with a middle aged bearded man knows no bounds -):

Haystack - 14 Dec 2015 22:31 - 66188 of 81564

Stan - 14 Dec 2015 22:53 - 66189 of 81564

..well really -):

Haystack - 14 Dec 2015 22:57 - 66190 of 81564

This is what may finish Corbyn

http://www.money-marketuk.com/Politics/5679-corbyn-at-odds-with-his-party-over-trident.html

Stan - 15 Dec 2015 08:13 - 66191 of 81564

Back to JB again eh, okie dokie..

Fred1new - 15 Dec 2015 08:40 - 66192 of 81564

I hear Cameron is trying to change Downining street into a airstrip so he can go on holiday and make a hasty escape when Boris moves in.

Fred1new - 15 Dec 2015 08:49 - 66193 of 81564

Hays,

What concesssions is he getting over EU membership?


Pop down to the neo-fascist HQ and get the latest spin!

MaxK - 15 Dec 2015 08:52 - 66194 of 81564

Fred1new - 15 Dec 2015 08:57 - 66195 of 81564

Fred1new - 15 Dec 2015 09:13 - 66196 of 81564

Poor old Cameron.

Perhaps, he picked up the wrong ideas from his new Chinese friend Chairman Maio.

And found there is nowhere to hide!

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Humbling of Sir Cover-Up: Crushing blow to Cabinet Secretary's bid to keep you in the dark as top mandarin demands MORE transparency
Sir Jeremy Heywood has been slammed over plans to water down FoI
His predecessor Lord Kerslake said that the act should be strengthened
He also accused ministers of double standards for wanting to restrict laws

Lord Kerslake was replaced by Sir Jeremy as the country's top civil servant
By DANIEL MARTIN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 23:51, 14 December 2015 | UPDATED: 01:59, 15 December 2015


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Britain’s top civil servant was savaged yesterday over his plans to restrict the public’s right to know.

Sir Jeremy Heywood – dubbed Sir Cover-Up – has claimed the Freedom of Information Act is hampering the smooth running of government.

But yesterday his predecessor Lord Kerslake insisted this was wrong – if officials felt a ‘chilling effect’ it was ‘largely in their heads’.

Sir Jeremy Heywood – dubbed Sir Cover-Up – who has claimed the Freedom of Information Act is hampering the smooth running of government
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Sir Jeremy Heywood – dubbed Sir Cover-Up – who has claimed the Freedom of Information Act is hampering the smooth running of government

Lord Kerslake, who was pushed out of his post as head of the home civil service by Sir Jeremy, said the act should be strengthened rather than watered down because public trust in government was plummeting.

‘The default is to conceal, to hold things back,’ he said. ‘We have, in my view, a yawning gap between the governing and the governed in this country. The only way we can restore that trust is to become more accountable, not less. Anything which seems to restrict that accountability is a false move.’

Lord Kerslake accused ministers of double standards for seeking to restrict public access to information while at the same time leaking stories to the media. He said it was absurd for Chris Grayling, the leader of the Commons, to claim journalists were abusing the FoI Act in their pursuit of stories.

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ExecLine - 15 Dec 2015 09:15 - 66197 of 81564

More and more people are determined not to slip over to the dark side and are joining the Jedi church and religion so as to try and become better Jedi Knights.

I wondered if some of you on here might like to join with me in taking a quiet moment out of your routine and saying a Jedi prayer?

"Oh mighty Force

That art in every living thing

Its course and movement

Known and the unknown

Seen and the unseen

Here...there...and everywhere in the mystical energy field that surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together
Oh mighty Force, help me to become a better Jedi Knight
And not always to seek adventure and excitement
For the Jedi crave not these things

Instead, help me to learn the ways of the Force, that I may do thy work, to exercise a strong influence over the weak minded, perform many somersaults and handstands in thy name, ye, and with all else but death become a Jedi Knight, to have the deepest commitment, and the most studious mind

Teach me not to try, but to do, or do not, to unlearn what I have learned, and to finish what I begin.

Though that I am reckless, help me to complete my training so that I may become a Guardian of Peace, and Justice, and to forgive those that have become agents of evil...seduced by the Dark Side of the Force, guide my steps with wisdom so that I might not be tempted to join them, for once we start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate our destiny, ye, teach me to use the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack, for verily thou art my ally, and a powerful ally thou art

Abiding in the great mystery it is ours to comprehend

Forever and ever oh Force, may thou be with me, always.

Chris Carson - 15 Dec 2015 09:30 - 66198 of 81564

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Trying to give it up Exec :0) Some bounce on CINE early doors. Got to be good for them.

Stan - 15 Dec 2015 10:59 - 66199 of 81564

Yes EL, a bit early for that sort of thing don't you think -):

Haystack - 15 Dec 2015 12:28 - 66200 of 81564

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