Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Again that's relatively irrelevant for the other gains.

I see very few gains. The location is the main problem. The majority of potential passengers live closer to Gatwick, Heathrow or Stanstead. Only a few people in Kent live closer. That means it would not be the airport of choice for most people. Gatwick and the others have slots connecting to most places in the world. Mansion would need to attract airlines and their routes otherwise it could not compete as an interchange hub. It would do little to lessen demands on Gatwick or Heathrow as passengers would expect to be able to change onto planes to other destinations.

Everyone living west of the River Medway is closer to Gatwick or Stansted than they are to Manston. As the main bases for easyJet and Ryanair respectively, these airports offer cheap flights to a vast range of destinations across Europe.

Manston has tried flying routes to Europe when Flybe operated there. It was a failure.

Manston has many gains as illustrated, London is just to crowded it's as simple as that.

In a world where it takes two hours of passport and luggage checks just to get thru to the waiting area...whats another few minutes to the travel time?


The whole thing is politics driven, and stinks, no doubt with well filled large brown envelopes involved.

There cant be any other reasons....Heathrow cant be serviced without knocking down whole swathes of west London.

The infrastructure cant cope now, never mind when they up capacity by 30%.

Manston is just too far. It is 80 miles from London on the coast. People from London won't drive there. They will just book with the existing airports. I certainly would. It is all unrealistic as there are really only two choices and Heathrow is favourite.

I think that an estuary airport should be the big solution as there is nothing there....spending a fortune on a third runway is wrong......I would make do with 2 runways and build out there on the thames...it might take 20 years as the cost will be enormous but something fantastic would be achieved and think of all the new housing that heathrow area would have ......but knowing that the british prefer quick fixes to longterm solutions....they will go for the third runway....don't blame me if there are massive protests....we should design and build things that we can be proud of...not ashamed of....the money that is designated for the third runway would get things going out on the estuary !....

Get with it H/S this London centric stuff is so out of kilter with current (and more importantly) future Transport planning.

Climate Change is the big issue emissions have to come down. Driving 80 miles is not and option, as already said the Channel Rail link is in place from central London and Stratford and that's the way forward.

Haze,




What is the spin from tory central office on this?

Was it a training program of Maggie's?

ANOTHER top Conservative resigns over bullying scandal: Thatcher foundation chief forced to quit over links to 'Tatler Tory'
Donal Blaney has resigned as leader of Conservative Way Forward group
Comes after Mail on Sunday exposed links with controversial Mark Clarke
Piles more pressure on Lord Feldman to resign over claims about Clarke Grant Shapps already gone and other senior members may be implicated

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3367357/ANOTHER-Conservative-resigns-bullying-scandal-Thatcher-foundation-chief-forced-quit-links-Tatler-Tory.html

What the public think!

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A few more details, pro's and cons to the airport saga.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Estuary_Airport

Stansted is dominated by the Ryanair's,easy jet, and large amounts of freight being transported to all regions of the world. (Fedxs, Tnts, Atlas cargo etc) . The holiday flights from the likes of Thompsons and Thomas Cook are small beer. Stansted is still to far from London. Gatwick is 80 miles distance. A cab fair is in the region of £90. The cheap flight boys have always been keen on Stansted but it has struggled to pull in majors. I think one company has just started flying to the states.

Like Jacob Rees-Mogg, I live under the flight path at Heathrow and it doesnt bother me one iota. The airport was there before me and I have the convenience of it being only 15 mins away. Stansted is normally 1.25 mins and God knows what it would be to an estuary airport. Probably have to take a flight since the M25 is already a car park on most days. Good for some people maybe but not for anyone living to the west of London, apart from the jobs of the tens of thousands of local people employed at Heathrow.
The extensive studies have shown that Heathrow is the best. Just get on with it Cameron and phase out diesel engines since they are the real polluters, not the aircraft.

Opinium/Observer –

CON 38, LAB 30, LDEM 5, UKIP 16, GRN 5

Jeremy Corbyn is "worried" that the carrying of guns may reduce confidence in the police.
I am worried that criminals and terrorists carrying guns while the police are unarmed will reduce confidence in public safety.

The French police carry weapons.

It didn't prevent the recent terrorist actions in Paris.

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Not advocating a that the police are not allowed necessary weapons, but don't wish to see the unnecessary flaunting of weaponry, nor gun ho killings on the street.

From memory, America with all its guns and armed police have a higher percent of "murder" than the Europe.

From: Steve Baker, MP, Co-Chairman of Conservatives for Britain:

Apparently, we are only 15 MPs short to get 50% of tory MPs in favour of a BREXIT in a free vote.

Loads of Tory MPs think, that what and how DC is negotiating for with the EU is just basically inadequate.

Betfair: "At the moment, "staying in the EU is 1.57" with "leaving the EU at 2.72."

The betting doesn't match the polls. The polls are generally saying that it is pretty even. A more accurate view won't appear until the result of negotiations is settled and the two sides start campaigning ahead of the referendum. The don't know camp is huge at the moment amounting to 37% in some polls. I think we will vote to stay in due to fear.

It doesn't matter what the vote amongst the MPs is. The result of the referendum is the deciding factor.

Oddschecker has stay well in the lead across most bookmakers

Leave (13/8)
Stay (4/7)

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/referendum-on-eu-membership-result