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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

TANKER - 29 Feb 2016 12:02 - 68421 of 81564


Each immigrant costs the taxpayer up to £8,350 a year in healthcare, education and benefits bills, according to official government figures.


Home Office analysis shows that imposing a £200 annual NHS charge on immigrants from outside Europe when they enter the country would deter thousands from travelling to Britain in the first place.


This will result in British residents gaining up to 1,000 jobs a year which would otherwise have been taken by foreign workers, the Home Office said.


The deterrent effect of the health levy is also expected to save the state up to £60 million a year in public services, such as schools, medical care, and welfare spending which would no longer be needed.


The estimates emerged in a report on the government’s Immigration Bill, which has been produced in an attempt to stop migrants travelling to Britain to take advantage of free healthcare, education and a generous benefits system.

cynic - 29 Feb 2016 12:06 - 68422 of 81564

result of brexit
i assume the following is correct ..... it's just the opening para a something rather longer

:: If the UK votes to leave the EU, what happens next?
Nothing … at first.

There would be a minimum of two years of negotiations to work out what the UK's future relationship with the EU would look like.

Haystack - 29 Feb 2016 12:07 - 68423 of 81564

Immigration is of concern, but not the problem that UKIP and followers would have you believe. We take very few compared to the other EU countries. Furthermore, we may have to allow free movement of people to get a trade deal.

TANKER - 29 Feb 2016 12:07 - 68424 of 81564

cynic read the real facts not reports by immigrants
you can read more about the crime by migrants
the social cost and the problems their are coursing in education
when they children do not speak English then they go home and do not speak English
this issue is destroying the british childrens education the teachers spend all their time trying to learn these kids English

all facts ask any teacher for facts I do and drink with some that is why teachers are leaving soul destroying

TANKER - 29 Feb 2016 12:09 - 68425 of 81564

hay I used to give hundreds ever year to certain charities now I would sooner burn the cash
never give to the criminals running save the children they are doing more damage than the war criminals

Haystack - 29 Feb 2016 12:11 - 68426 of 81564

cynic

I would think that it would take longer than 2 years. That could be very important. There is a good chance that the EU might use the 2 to 5 years to offer us a better deal, prompting a further referendum. Ireland did the same thing when it rejected a new treaty and then had a second referendum and accepted it.

TANKER - 29 Feb 2016 12:12 - 68427 of 81564

cynic a few facts polish people are setting up their own communities they
they do not want to be apart of the local community they are the same in muslim community the uk as more no go areas than ever
and one day all hell will break out

TANKER - 29 Feb 2016 12:15 - 68428 of 81564

on the vote my family and friends have decided nothing will change our views

out out out

when your pm tells lies and is not interested in the truth
you no its time to get out
and will not allow civil servant to give out information on the benefit cost
it tells you alll

MaxK - 29 Feb 2016 12:18 - 68429 of 81564

Does America trade with the €U?

Does America have an open door policy with the €U??

TANKER - 29 Feb 2016 12:18 - 68430 of 81564

under freedom of information you are not allowed to get the info on the benefits to migrants

fact if I am telling lies then go and get me the gov report on the cost gov figures
not some person who makes it up

gov figures you will not get them

jimmy b - 29 Feb 2016 12:37 - 68431 of 81564

Hays
Immigration is of concern, but not the problem that UKIP and followers would have you believe. We take very few compared to the other EU countries.
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Hays you don't think we have a problem with too much immigration ?

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The UK just recorded a massive year for migration. People are streaming into the UK, mostly from Europe, at the fastest pace on record, according to figures released Thursday.

Most headlines will broadcast the net migration figure, which rose by 318,000 in 2014 — the biggest rise since statistics began in 1970. The net figure subtracts the number of migrants who left the country in 2014 from the total number of people who migrated to the UK in the same year. A total of 641,000 people immigrated to the UK in 2014.

jimmy b - 29 Feb 2016 12:39 - 68432 of 81564

That overwhelming figure actually understates the huge number of people who registered for National Insurance numbers (used in the UK to prove you're properly registered to work for tax purposes): A whopping 824,154 more people got NI cards in the year to March 2015, figures released Thursday morning show. That number is equivalent to about 1.2% of the UK's population, with 629,410 NI numbers issued to people from other EU countries. Of those, most are from just four countries:

Poland: 115,606
Romania: 152,363
Italy: 57,635
Spain: 54,203
This is a seriously massive year. There were about 120,000 more NI numbers issued over the last year than in the next-highest year since the financial crisis. (In the year to March 2011 just over 700,000 numbers were issued.)

It's not clear why the NI registration figure is considerably larger than the registered migration figure. The periods are slightly different (the net migration figures are for 2014 as a whole, while the NI number figures are for the year to March 2015), but that doesn't really account for another 180,000 or so people coming to the UK.

It's clear to see from a map of registrations that while there are urban hubs of migration in places like Manchester and Birmingham, the applications are located primarily in the southeast of the country and London. (In fact, those two areas combined make up more than half the total.

Fred1new - 29 Feb 2016 14:26 - 68433 of 81564

Who would you back JB and few cronies.

Perhaps it is because the are insular little englanders.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-funds-uk-idUKKCN0W21G5?feedType=nl&feedName=ukdailyinvestor



With eye on possible Brexit, British funds cut UK exposure


British investors have sharply cut their exposure to domestic stocks and bonds in February in favour of euro zone assets, suggesting nerves are jangling over the country's potential exit from the European Union.

Britain is due to hold a referendum on its EU membership on June 23 and as the odds on 'Brexit' have steadily shortened in recent weeks, economists and world leaders have lined up to warn of the political and economic implications of such a split.

The debate sent sterling plunging to seven-year lows GBP= after London's influential mayor Boris Johnson backed the campaign to leave.

But a commodity rout and policymakers' apparent helplessness in the face of sluggish world growth is also weighing on sentiment, with London's FTSE 100 equity index set for its fourth straight monthly fall.

"Investors have been under a cloud of investment risk ... Unfortunately, throw in a bit of geo-political risk and the investment environment becomes very volatile," said Peter Lowman, chief investment officer at Investment Quorum.

"Sterling has taken the full force of the recent uncertainty. With some large institutions predicting it could fall as much as another 20 percent on a 'No' vote, that has huge ramifications ... you could make money on the stock market and lose it on the currency," he added.

British funds' allocation to UK equities fell to 26.7 percent this month, down six percentage points from last month, while the weight of euro zone and U.S. stocks each rose more than one percentage point to 16.5 and 27.8 percent respectively.

2517GEORGE - 29 Feb 2016 14:36 - 68434 of 81564

''British funds' allocation to UK equities fell to 26.7 percent this month, down six percentage points from last month''

Despite this the FTSE index is up 30 odd pts.
2517

jimmy b - 29 Feb 2016 14:39 - 68435 of 81564

Neil Woodford: Investors should not fear Brexit

This is a guy who knows a bit about the stock market..

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/db390a7c-db1a-11e5-a72f-1e7744c66818.html#axzz41ZGOqnuk

cynic - 29 Feb 2016 14:45 - 68436 of 81564

sorry to repeat, but to me, the below is of considerable interest .....

result of brexit
i assume the following is correct ..... it's just the opening para a something rather longer

:: If the UK votes to leave the EU, what happens next?
Nothing … at first.

There would be a minimum of two years of negotiations to work out what the UK's future relationship with the EU would look like.

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in other words, there will be a total shambles, but in fact the implication is that uk would probably be able to negotiate a better deal (in many respects) with eu than was just fought very hard for ........ and hats off to DC who had no real cards to play and secured at least as much as could reasonably have been hoped for


beloved and myself are almost but not quite decided to vote "out"
number 1 son is undecided as yet but had been veering towards "in"
have yet to discuss with number 2 son and daughter

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however, i would be quite or even very surprised if "out" carried the day

jimmy b - 29 Feb 2016 14:45 - 68437 of 81564

These people are now stoning border force guards and ripping down fences again ,get ready for this years mass invasion .
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A crowd of migrants has burst through a barbed-wire fence on the Macedonia-Greece border using a steel pole as a battering ram.
TV footage showed migrants pushing against the fence at Idomeni, ripping away barbed wire, as Macedonian police let off tear gas to force them away.
A section of fence was smashed open with the battering ram. It is not clear how many migrants got through.
Many of those trying to reach northern Europe are Syrian and Iraqi refugees.
About 6,500 people are stuck on the Greek side of the border, as Macedonia is letting very few in. Many have been camping in squalid conditions for a week or more, with little food or medical help.
The chaos on Monday erupted at a gate festooned with barbed wire, keeping migrants away from a railway line.
Macedonia and some other Balkan countries have erected fences in an attempt to reduce the influx of migrants, after more than a million reached Germany last year.
Greece is angry with Austria for having imposed a cap on migrant numbers. The crisis has left Greece shouldering much of the burden of housing migrants arriving in the EU from Turkey.
Many are refugees fleeing war in the Middle East, while others are escaping human rights abuses in Afghanistan, Eritrea and other conflict zones.

jimmy b - 29 Feb 2016 14:54 - 68438 of 81564

Makes me laugh , the total luvvie pratt Jude Law poking his nose in visiting Calais (probably not getting enough attention at the moment)
He leaves and his body guards get rocks thrown at them and mugged for their phones .

What do you think of them now Jude ? just as well you slipped away before your security got mugged by these animals .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3467795/Jude-Law-s-security-team-attacked-mugged-migrants-cameras-stopped-Hollywood-star-left-jungle-camp-Calais.html

Fred1new - 29 Feb 2016 15:01 - 68439 of 81564

JB,

What type of organism are you?

I bet you would squirm if you were in their position.

jimmy b - 29 Feb 2016 15:37 - 68440 of 81564

Starting to clear the Calais jungle ,i wonder if this is because we have the referendum .
France you may be too late .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35686209
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