Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

a good word change fred insofar it more accurately reflects the nature of a good contract
the other description of a good contract, as with a compromise, is one wherein both parties are moderately unhappy

goldsmith will be a simple shoo-in

ummmmh.

Interesting to watch.

ummmmh.

Interesting to watch.

murderer BLAIR still spout lies BLAIR the murderer should keep is foul mouth shut
he had thousands killed by is lies and still free he is a war criminal

does this man not respect human life ,or am I wrong

Rosie.

How much respect do you have for others?

their are very few people I dislike . as long as they live by the rules of life and laws

What are your rules of life and laws?

From where or what did they originate from?

more interesting .... and a damn good job too .... these obligatory self-employed arrangements have long been a disgrace and an abuse ....... and before you say it, it also applies to misapplied zero-hour contracts

Uber drivers win UK legal battle over employment rights
Uber drivers have claimed victory in a crucial court battle in London, which has ruled they are “workers” who are entitled to the national minimum wage and holiday pay.

They wont be workers for long .. they'll be unemployed.

maybe and maybe not ..... Uber drivers already get shafted as do the drivers for companies like Hermes who are also being clamped down on (Hermes that is)

The battle they have won may not be good for them long term. They have effectively asked to be regarded as employees. HMRC nay take an interest and demand tax deducted at source by Uber and employee and employer NI payments. Then there is the provision of workplace pensions.

i am sure (97% certain) that HMRC has already been taking a close(r) look at these so-called self-employed contracts
as self-employed, i think you already pay enhanced NIC ..... but it's the likes of Uber (and Hermes) who will really be doing the squawking

Today's judgement may well be appealed.

i dare say, but very much hope it will be in vain and expensive for Uber

When you run your own business you might not be in a position to pay
yourself a minimum wage, thats why taxi drivers are mostly self employed,
I should imagine that's what black cab drivers work under?.

If i were in charge at uber, and they lose any appeal, i'd look at some kind
of franchise arrangement..

I don't see how this can be made to work assuming all drivers are employed by Uber.

Costs will go up.


Uber allows smartphone owners to hail a driver using the location software in the passenger and the driver's phones. A driver in the vicinity is summoned, often making it quicker and easier than booking a minicab or hailing a taxi


The app is connected to the passenger's credit card, with journeys being charged for on a per-mile and minute basis. Uber essentially takes a referral fee, with the majority going to the driver


Uber drivers use their own vehicles and pay for their own fuel.



Taken from this article:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/10/28/uber-awaits-major-tribunal-decision-over-drivers-working-rights/

why should the same system not work?
uber just has to ensure that all its drivers earn the minimum wage and get the commensurate benefits

Sounds as bad as a Brexit!