cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
skinny
- 25 Nov 2011 17:24
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Chris - when I said "have to go out" - that's what I meant :-))
Chris Carson
- 25 Nov 2011 17:26
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Cheers skinny! enjoy.
ptholden
- 25 Nov 2011 17:29
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Not sure Ricardo, wish I'd shorted the git when I closed now, but that's just 20/20 hindsight.
Like Skinners, I'm still thinking we're in for a charge, but I don't fancy trying to catch this particlar knife. Would much prefer a return to 11180 ish and then go long from there, but don't think it will be that easy!
Having said that, it seems to be finding some support here (11260)
ptholden
- 25 Nov 2011 17:44
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Ricardo, believe the Markets close at 1800 today, don't be caught with an open position over the weekend you don't want!
ptholden
- 25 Nov 2011 18:02
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A mini charge in the wrong direction!
IG still making a market, but spread on Indices 6 pts.
dreamcatcher
- 25 Nov 2011 18:09
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Still waiting for this bloody bull market?
cynic
- 25 Nov 2011 18:09
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thanks peter - a good warning!
ptholden
- 25 Nov 2011 18:28
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Dc - who's predicting a bull market?
Bears in charge for now, grrrr.
dreamcatcher
- 25 Nov 2011 21:31
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I thought you did, a few weeks ago ?
dreamcatcher
- 25 Nov 2011 21:39
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ptholden - 21 Oct 2011 22:04 - 7228 of 7589
The DOW has broken through resistance tonight having been stuck in a trading range for a number of months. Chart convention would indicate the index will continue to rise before a pull back to that same resistance level which will provide support to a more sustained rally. I expect the markets to have a bull run for the remainder of the year. You heard it here first :-)
ptholden
- 25 Nov 2011 21:42
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DC - Indeed, but sentiment changes as does opinion, try this for size:
ptholden - 24 Nov 2011 19:01 - 7538 of 7590
Not so long ago I was quite Bullish overall, I could see Cable continuing its upward trend and the DOW / FTSE doing likewise.
What a difference a few weeks makes :(
I've noticed that the EUR/USD cross has been in a long term downward channel since July 2008 and is now well into the next downward leg (the third). It's quite an easy channel to spot and also symmetrical in time and price. If the price movement follows previous performance, the pair could hit 1.15 very early next year (2000 pips in three months?).
Naturally, equities will spiral downwards in the same manner and I think we'd be quite lucky to see a low on the DOW of just 10,600 and I've only picked that number as the last major correction. I wonder if the 2008 sub prime low of 7000 ish could be re-visited?
As always just ruminating about the general state of affairs, but for sure it would appear that the enormous levels of debt worldwide have not yet played out in respect of banks, financial institutions, even countries going to the wall.
ptholden
- 25 Nov 2011 21:46
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DC - No point in trading what you think, trade what you see and at the moment the markets are sinking, although I banked a nice profit today by being long :-)
For all I know the EUR isn't going to collapse either, but it's what BBs are for and some of what I post is rather tongue in cheek and sometimes a deliberate effort to illicit a response or provoke discussion.
dreamcatcher
- 25 Nov 2011 21:55
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ptholden, lets hope Europe survives. Get the feeling a few companies will not be here in the next few months, through lending problems with banks.
dreamcatcher
- 25 Nov 2011 21:56
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My computer seems on the blink now. Keep having to log back in to money am and lost my last post.
Balerboy
- 25 Nov 2011 22:43
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PTH.....you certainly do that...lol re: post 7592 "some of what I post is rather tongue in cheek and sometimes a deliberate effort to illicit a response or provoke discussion.
ptholden
- 26 Nov 2011 17:56
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BB - it's a talent.:)
Here's a thought though and it refers to trading psychology.
We've become so accustomed to the crazy yanks pushing the Dow up by 100,200 pts and even more, those of us posting on this thread yesterday seemingly didn't consider shorting. We were all trading what we were thinking rather than what we were seeing. I think I even posted I had closed my long due to a possible candlestick pattern forming and it did on the 30 min chart. Usually that would have triggered me to go short but I guess because collectively we were expecting a rally, I did nothing. I wonder if I had not been reading this thread I would have acted differently? In any event the real moral of the story is trade what you see, not what you think!
cynic
- 26 Nov 2011 18:19
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wood and trees come to mind
dreamcatcher
- 26 Nov 2011 21:41
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I was not expecting a rally. That was a a major mistake for investors. It has turned out far worse then I thought. You could see months ago this was going to happen,
with the debt pile of Europe.
HARRYCAT
- 27 Nov 2011 10:36
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jonuk76
- 27 Nov 2011 13:56
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