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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

grannyboy - 05 Mar 2017 09:59 - 76201 of 81564

As expected the 'mock execution' by 'sir' rod stewart has quickly been
forgotten, unlike the Lewis debacle that was carried on by the pc media
for days.....

grannyboy - 05 Mar 2017 15:26 - 76202 of 81564

Ho dear..Has our attention being too focused on Sweden, when France is in
a far worse state...


"In 1984, a movement called SOS Racisme was created by Trotskyist militants,
and began to define any criticism of immigration as "racist". Major leftist parties supported SOS Racism.

They seemed to have thought that by accusing their political opponents of racism, they could attract the votes of "new citizens".

The presence of islamist agitators , alongside agitators in Arab and African
neighborhoods, plus the emergence of anti-western islamic discourse,
alarmed many observers SOS Racisme immediately designated those who
spoke of islamic danger as "Islamophobic racist."

gatestoneinstitute.org/10007/france-death-spiral

mentor - 06 Mar 2017 15:34 - 76203 of 81564

Pakistani women in UK paid least compared to men, Irish women the most - study
Mon, 6th Mar 2017 14:47 - By Anna Pujol-Mazzini

LONDON, March 6 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Pakistani and Bangladeshi women in Britain are paid the least compared to men while white Irish women have overtaken male peers in terms of salaries, according to a study of the gender pay gap by ethnicity on Monday.

The study released by women's rights group Fawcett Society found women from almost every minority ethnic group experienced a pay gap with white British men.

Research by the University of Manchester found Pakistani and Bangladeshi women hardest hit, earning 26 percent less than white British male peers, while black African women had made little progress since the 1990s and earned 20 percent less.

Figures from the UK's Office of National Statistics show on average women earned about 18 percent less than men in Britain in 2016.

The women who had seen the most progress since the 1990s were white Irish women who are now paid 17.5 percent more than white Irish and British men.

"But this is largely due to generational factors as they are more likely to be older, working full-time or in senior or managerial roles," Sam Smethers, chief executive of the Fawcett Society, said in a statement.

Chinese women have also have managed to reverse the pay gap in the past 20 years and are now earning 5 percent more than white British men when working full-time. But they still earn less than Chinese men.

Indian women have seen the gender pay gap with white British men narrow to about 6 percent from 26 percent in the 1990s for those working full-time.

Smethers said the charity's breakdown of the gender pay gap by ethnicity - released ahead of International Women's Day on March 8 - tracked progress over a 25 year period with largely negative results but some positive.

Smethers said black African women have been largely left behind in terms of closing the pay gap and Pakistani and Bangladeshi women are today "only where white British women were in the 1990s".

"For these groups this is a story of low labour market participation and low pay when they are in work together with high levels of unpaid caring work," Smethers said.

"But it is important to consider how that gender inequality is experienced by different ethnic groups to ensure that all women in Britain see their gender pay gap closed."

grannyboy - 06 Mar 2017 18:03 - 76204 of 81564

"A Study by womens right group Fawcett Society found women from almost
every minority ethnic group experienced a pay gap with white British men"

Yes another bashing for the white British men, but the system is certainly
working against white British men for future generations which will reverse
that anomaly due to the fact that white boys are now being discriminated against
in further education, and also by the lack of attention in main schools because
the teachers have to give more attention to foreign born children where English
is not their first language.

As to Pakistani and Bangladeshi women being paid the least, is down to those from
them regions are generally muslim, and muslim women stay home to look after their
large families.


And all those studies point to its that time of year when these organisation
put in for grants..

iturama - 07 Mar 2017 12:19 - 76205 of 81564

If Theresa May needed confirmation that there has been too much dumbing down in our education system, it is a former (labour) education minister saying that she is 150% wrong to bring back grammar schools.
The wealthy always have choice while grammar schools at least allow some working class youngsters the chance to have a better education. At the same time cut down on the number of universities. We have enough graduates in Art working at Starbucks while Polish fitters are fixing our boilers.

cynic - 07 Mar 2017 14:06 - 76206 of 81564

just for info, the country's top public schools are now starting to suffer a severe imbalance as more and more children from wealthy overseas families take up the places on offer

it's an interesting discussion in itself, but i won't bore you all

Fred1new - 07 Mar 2017 18:51 - 76207 of 81564

Yes, it is simple, the working class can afford the coaching to prepare their offspring for the examination to get into the grammar school.

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Simple again, don't make any more boilers.

Dil - 08 Mar 2017 08:47 - 76208 of 81564

What you on about now Fred ? I went to a comprehensive but would have needed no coaching whatsoever to have gained a grammar school place and nor would my mates. Those better off who's fathers were doctors , accountants etc wouldn't have needed any either.

Fred1new - 08 Mar 2017 12:16 - 76209 of 81564

Dil.

Are you sure that you wouldn’t have needed coaching could be improved by a little more coercion?

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The assumptions are that those achieving "grammar" school places is often based on inborn “traits”, “natural abilities” and “genetic propensities” or “predispositions” rather than family “cultural” and “social” factors.
Ie. the “most able intellectually” able float automatically to the “top” by their own “natural” inborn “qualities” rather than the “family “pressures” or “directives”.

As with “athletes” coaching generally if applied appropriately can develop the potentials of an athlete to increase their performances’.

Unfortunately, in present social-cultural structures, many will fail to achieve their potentials.

I thought the introduction of the Comprehensive system under Baroness Shirley Williams while ideologically correct, but was appallingly organised, when put into practice and responsible for the some of the present “school problems”.

Also, I did see the necessity for the demise of the grammar schools, but saw the real problems and the poverty of “teaching” and “training” in the “secondary” schools and some technical colleges.

Also, because the method of re-organising by the amalgamation of schools at a distance to one another and often with different ethoses to one another, made for difficulties.

However, the reintroduction of grammar schools and early zoning of society as 11 or 12 does not seem to be the right way to improve education.

Efforts to improving the “teaching” within the present structures should be the aims.

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Ps. I was a lucky grammar school “failure”, but my grand-children are in “top” London comprehensives and I think having a very good education.

Dil - 09 Mar 2017 09:15 - 76210 of 81564

Glad to hear it Fred.

Our school was ok at the time but think it may have gone down hill a bit since I attended. Look at that Labour clown Owen Smith who went to the same school , hardly a bright spark is he :-)

Fred1new - 09 Mar 2017 11:00 - 76211 of 81564

I didn't know they had schools in Barry when you were a boy.

Dil - 10 Mar 2017 10:44 - 76212 of 81564

Yeah we had some decent teachers too Fred who slapped you around if you didn't behave.

I can now look back fondly at the many times I was slapped with a dap or hit over the knuckles with a ruler ... them was the days.

Dil - 10 Mar 2017 10:50 - 76213 of 81564

I once got rapped over the knuckles on 3 separate occasions in one 35 minute French lesson and it was a female teacher.

Dropped French when I was 14 ... think the teacher had an issue with me :-)

ExecLine - 10 Mar 2017 10:51 - 76214 of 81564

And here's another one slipped in from 'Spreadsheet Phil' and which I didn't hear any mention of when I watched his Budget Speech.....

Did I miss it? Did anyone else hear him say anything about it?

Hmmm? Anyway....

Currently, families pay the Government a set £215 fee, or £155 if they apply through a solicitor, to get permission for probate - the legal authority to distribute someone's property, savings and investments after they die.

Fees are set to rocket in May with new levels ranging from £300 to £20,000 depending on the value of the estate - and will be in addition to inheritance tax.

Experts described it as a 'stealth tax' to target the bereaved. It's pretty hefty taxation and it's estimated, that it will rake in around £1.5 Billion.

iturama - 10 Mar 2017 11:32 - 76215 of 81564

The "experts" always say that. I guess the only answer is to die before it comes into effect. The increase is to "reduce the cost of running courts and tribunals and, cough, raise 250M for the Exchequer". No doubt it will be spent on worthy causes, such as aid to Kenya and Zimbabwe....

MaxK - 10 Mar 2017 18:26 - 76216 of 81564

This was posted up by MT across the road..no link, but good message imo



Mount Teide
25 Feb '17 - 12:02 - 65614 of 65620 2 1



The hugely condescending and nauseatingly disingenuous US Democrats and Blairite PLP are now widely seen and mocked as boutique parties of metropolitan elite career politicians expressing fake outrage, social engineering, synthetic indignation, and political correctness 24/7 - incapable of understanding the problems of the wider working class which they casually dismiss as not being real or of importance - if your life sucks your problems are real alright !

Politics and the economy is rigged against most traditional labour supporters and working class voters - Trump and Farage continually pointed this out and were mercilessly abused and ridiculed by the Left, their mainstream media and corporate masters for daring to suggest what most working class people have long suspected and increasingly come to believe. As evidenced, by the fact that UKIP polled 4 million votes in the last GE, more than the SNP and Lib Dems combined - which seems to have gone straight over the heads of the left!

The liberal left needs to seriously examine the reasons why they keep losing elections - which basically is because they have gone from the party that protects the interests of working people first to protecting corporate interests and the wealthy first - under the present Tory Government, the wealthy pay 10% more tax than they did at any time under 13 years of the last Labour Government - a totally unacceptable state of affairs for a party supposedly elected to look after the many not the few.

What particularly irks the working class is when the Liberal left gets offended for people who themselves do not consider they have been offended. They especially dislike the liberal luvvies who race to twitter besides themselves with self loathing for their unconscionable thoughtless action and appalling ignorance, should they make the most minor of political correctness gaffes. ( Like many of the UK police force, they should pay to attend a Roy Chubby Brown Concert and see what the real world thinks of the lefts inane pseudo-scientific claptrap and politically correct nonsense.)

Leftie luvvie Justin Timberlake tweeted that Jesse Williams, an African American 'inspired' him. But then had to apologise unreservedly for the sin of giving someone a compliment, " i apologise to anyone that thought i was speaking out of turn. I have nothing but love for all of you and all of us!', when it was pointed out to him he had committed the cardinal sin of 'cultural appropriation'! (What the f*ck is cultural appropriation cried 99% of the population outside of the Leftie luvvie world of political correctness gone mad!).

The leftie luvvie men have been reduced to men who only speak when their wives or girlfriends consider it appropriate and only then in the most reverential tones to the political correctness and diversity alter that they all worship above all else, including the economy and the welfare of those far less fortunate than themselves.

Trump and Brexit is a rebellion against this totally inane nonsense, which is still in its infancy, accelerating and likely to run for decades.

Some free advice for the left - while the leftie politicians were actively policing the speeches at the children's school awards evening for political correctness and monitoring their communities to ensure the full richness of the diversity they had unleashed on them without consultation was being fully embraced, a man called Donald Trump talked himself into the White House by continually making himself out to be a sexist, racist, homophobic, misogynist who routinely insulted gays, veterans and their families, women and children, and Mexicans to name a few .

Fred1new - 10 Mar 2017 22:19 - 76217 of 81564

There is nothing like a little bit of hate to get some going.

It helps to feed their greed.

Fred1new - 11 Mar 2017 08:29 - 76218 of 81564

MaxK - 11 Mar 2017 21:09 - 76219 of 81564

Fred1new - 12 Mar 2017 08:37 - 76220 of 81564

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