Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I think you will find its the England and Wales cricket board that the team represent but we only own up to that when we win something :-)

And your correct Victim in that Cardiff is now recognised as a multi cultural society since we let an English family move there without burning his home down.

Could be worse they could be playing in Swansea.

I'm just going off a Cardiff lad i new even 30 years ago that said it was full of Pakistani's , and mid Wales .

Doreen Tipton to the rescue....

"I will never use statistics to confuse you. Over 89% of politicians do that, and of the 33% that don't, at least half are 72% more likely to than the other 4/5ths."

"The country is in crisis. I had to act. In short, we, the self-unemployed, are in the shit."

:-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/14/grenfell-tower-blaze-pictures-firefighters-tackle-massive-fire/blaze-appeared-have-consumed-27-floors-block-flats/

Criminal negligence, no other word for it.

Just had £10 million spent on it too .

Flammable cladding?

Another caller, Linda, told the station how she watched huge chunks of polystyrene type material falling from the building.

"It was everywhere, it was like snow," she said.

"There were larger sheets and small pieces.

"It was coming down everywhere."

Samira Lamrani said she saw a woman try to save a baby by dropping it from a window "on the 9th or 10th floor" to waiting members of the public below.

She told the Press Association: "People were starting to appear at the windows, frantically banging and screaming. The windows were slightly ajar, a woman was gesturing that she was about to throw her baby and if somebody could catch her baby.

"Somebody did, a gentleman ran forward and managed to catch the baby."

Another resident, called Zara, said she saw a woman throw her son, who was about five years old, from a 5th or 6th floor window to escape the blaze.

She told LBC: "One woman actually threw her son out of the window. I think he's OK.

"I think he might have just had some broken bones and bruises.

who signed the agreement , who made money out of the contract ,

If anyone or organisation wanted to spend 10million pounds to redesign a block of flats to fail if a fire broke out, then this was an example of how to achieve that end.

you can use the best quality goods but if the people using it are not then it is pointless
the contractors used cheap labour , not tradesmen .all about profit .

itv last week homes being built by non skilled they are unfit to live in cheap labour
from the eu . all their on itv .

I would never allow a non tradesman to do any work for me and would want to see is work . I am lucky I have tradesmen in the family , never advertise they get work by word of mouth

did any of you watch the programme ,

dorren tipton on facebook watch the video bril fab excellent you must watch it.it will make your day

That'll be God, wonderful.

Is's certainly something on the outside of the building , look at the way the flames have spread upwards very quickly , straight up . It won't take much to find out the cause .

the gap behind would act like funnel and that is what has happened not seal on ever level its murder . workers paid by amount not by doing a proper job , its called hit and miss more miss than hit

and for 20 years was a steal erector did the roof on wilfa station that is a solid job ,
will never catch fire , it can not 1967/8

just listening to a person saying how many illegal people may have been in the flats
is unknown , they are a lot of illegals living in London

"they get work by word of mouth" and cash in hand :-)