Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Look back to the 1920-1940 period and think about what led up to it and the loss of lives.
?60+ million.


i think fred is talking about stalin's disastrous policy of collectivism in agriculture (and industry), his genocide by famine in ukraine and the reign of terror ..... death toll was at least that

Ian Poulter
for golfing fans, it's good to see IP has crept into this week's WGC Match Play event

it was less than year ago, when IP appeared to have lost his uspga playing card, but on recalculation, it was found the authorities had made a mistake and his card was reinstated

cynic , good job Corby wasn't PM in 1982 as he would have probably claimed the Falklands invasion was just an increase in tourism and nothing to get worked up about.

Have a look at running costs of the Falklands.

I always think a war is worth its value when you count the death toll.

A sensible evaluation of Russian problem:

Russia will remain a difficult partner for Europe - Maas
Reuters Staff

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BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Russia will remain a difficult partner, said new German foreign minister Heiko Maas, reacting to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s re-election on Sunday and questioning its fairness.

German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas attends a meeting with his Polish counterpart Jacek Czaputowicz (not pictured) during his visit in Warsaw Poland, March 16, 2018. Agencja Gazeta/Slawomir Kaminski via REUTERS
The European Union must be able to continue to talk to Russia, despite a host of issues, he said.

“The result of the election in Russia was as unsurprising to us as the circumstances of the election. We can’t talk about a fair political competition in all respects as we would understand it,” he told reporters, arriving at a monthly meeting of EU foreign ministers.

“Russia will remain a difficult partner. But Russia will also be needed for solutions to the big international conflicts and so we want to remain in dialogue,” Maas said.


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But perhaps Dil should try digging up Maggie.

The running costs of Wales and Scotland cost England a lot more than the Falklands Fred so I take it you wouldn't have thought it worth defending those either if Argentina had invaded ?

Couldn't stand Maggie Fred , heartless cow but I disliked her less than I dislike that clown Corbyn.

of course germany needs russia very badly indeed ...... russia controls the pipeline through which germany gets at least 60/70% of its gas

Dil,

Cost/ person.

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Fred1 as you seem to object to wars, may I ask if you are a Jehovan Witness? or are you just against some wars?

fred is programmed to be against anything that anyone else has to say about anything

Manuel,

No.

Only when somebody like you makes the dumbest of self-opiniated comments.

Which in your case is frequent.

As you report yourself in the:

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an opinionated pain

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Fred , so feck Gibralter if Spain invades .... likewise the Channel Islands if the French want them.

Glad you weren't in charge in 1939 , would probably have argued the same when Germany invaded Poland.

Dil,

Spain doesn't need to invade Gibraltar, it is simple for them to cause chaos there by a simple blockade.

But my guess is that the Spanish government is more mature than you appear to be.

They don't have to invade and many in Gibraltar would prefer to remain in the EU.
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As far as 1939 is concerned, I think you should look at the terms of the Treaty of Versailles.

The economic depression in Europe (and World economy) during the 1920-30s.

The mass unemployment and social pauperism which led to the election of extremist political leaders and their racist adherents.
(Right and left winged.)

Similar to what is happening at the moment with the move to populism.

This panders to nationalistic and racist policies of the likes of the Farage, BNP UKIP and Brexiters and some supporters appear to me to be advocating.

For many, Farage who seems to appeal to you has many of the characteristics of a newly born Hitler.
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But you are allowed to be as insular as you wish to be, but the consequences of what you seem to be wishing for are longer term than you may think.

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There is a picture in my daily rag of Ant McPartlin getting out of his black Mini. He looks very wobbly and possibly very shaken up by the accident he's just been involved in. No other car is shown in my paper, only Ant's black Mini.

Hmmm? That wasn't enough for me. I seemed to remember seeing a red car on TV so I thought I'd see what else is out there about McPartlin's accident on t'Internet.

First off, here's a graphic showing how it is thought the accident happened. It doesn't show any vehicle speeds, of course.



Here's a YouTube clip of Ant getting out of his car after the accident. Notice it shows a head-on collision between Ant's black Mini and a red BMW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=3uj-IuQ5UeQ

I also found this. It's another YouTube clip about Ant's accident. This one is extremely interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9xzAV03d8o

"I was so angry with him I lost my cool and tried to run up to him and smash his face - I had to be held back."

After watching this last clip, I think Ant could easily end up doing a spell in prison......

Who is Ant McParlin? Does he play for Celtic?

so CORBYN has now admitted that the poison finger does indeed point at Russia beyond reasonable doubt

Corbyn then gives a bit more waffle, but he says, not wrongly, that uk (and others) should still talk to Russia
expelling diplomats does not preclude discussions going on behind the scenes, just as it did with IRA .... so actually, no great piece of novel thinking, though Corbyn will like to pretend otherwise

" the poison finger does indeed point at Russia beyond reasonable doubt"

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