Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

in answer to your last bit, apparently very much so, as London is and will remain an international hub

the likes of Schiphol and CDG absolutely could not cope with the volume

No.

London will go down the Thames if Brexit occurs.

ah so you're an air traffic expert too
is there no limit to your knowledge?

Fred, London is not England and if it goes down the river to Boris`s prefered option then a result for the British Bulls. All this nonsense about Brexit, if the British just got on with it, and pulled out - the country would rise to the challenge , take it on the chin and move forward in the same way as the market did within days of the vote two years ago.

Since the vote the market has hit record levels, the same would happen if Britian got out without a deal and May went to the Country - she would drive Labour to get a new leader.

Manuel.

As you are obviously a genius, what do you understand the goals of T. May and cohorts are in their Brexit negotiations are?

Or are they hoping for a vote of No Confidence before they have to sign a piece of white paper?

It is pretty obvious the con party and the country as a whole doesn't trust the present incompetent government to make any deal which is sensible.
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The tory party is a laughing stock in Europe.

Manuel.

As you are obviously a genius, what do you understand the goals of T. May and cohorts are in their Brexit negotiations are?

Or are they hoping for a vote of No Confidence before they have to sign a piece of white paper?

It is pretty obvious the con party and the country as a whole doesn't trust the present incompetent government to make any deal which is sensible.
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The tory party is a laughing stock in Europe.

Manuel.

As you are obviously a genius, what do you understand the goals of T. May and cohorts are in their Brexit negotiations are?

Or are they hoping for a vote of No Confidence before they have to sign a piece of white paper?

It is pretty obvious the con party and the country as a whole doesn't trust the present incompetent government to make any deal which is sensible.
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The tory party is a laughing stock in Europe.

I'm not aware of anyone in Europe laughing at Brexit or the Conservative party, Fred. That said, the current Tory government is a total embarrassment, and the cracks have only deepened since Cameron was stupid enough to trust the people to make the decision he wanted.

The differences are merely cultural, and the EU negotiating tactics are therefore different as a result, but the EU simply want what's best for them, and vice-versa with the UK. I'm sure a deal will be done at the 11th hour.

i note the quick swerve away from LHR runway ....

i have no idea what is happening with brexit negotiations and confess i really can't be bothered to follow them at all
eventually there'll be some fudge - or not - and i for one will just get on with life
others can whine and whinge and snipe both in the interim and after the event

I'm sure a deal will be done at the 11th hour
fully concur, as happened with greece and italy and a few others too

The deal will be a status quo without the UK having a place at the table and having to accept the rules and regulations as set in Brussels and at a higher price than we are paying now.

The EU countries will want compensation for the disruption which Cameron and cronies have created.

I would like to know the cost of the upheaval is and bill Cameron and Osborne for them.

Mind I suppose the Chancellor's raising "personal" taxes will pay the bills.

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You remind me of sitting on a rock in the middle of the river Dordogne some years back and allowing the water to flow over me.

Temperature 39deg Centigrade.

I miss France.

Enjoy it.

so says the oracle of delphi

i'm sure you know what shadow pm JC would have done and how he would have tackled everything - or would he have just ignored the referendum result?
we'll never know, but of course i am sure you do

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shame you didn't drown

I do, Fred, but you should know that nowadays they have things called brumisateurs which spray a mist of cold water over you when the temperature hits 39.

:o)

https://www.castorama.fr/ventilateur-brumisateur-exterieur-blyss-o50-cm-180w/3663602900238_CAFR.prd

Manuel,

Both Jeremy and you have grown old.

Unlike you, Jeremy has grown up and matured well, while you appeared stunted and retarded or well past your sell-by date.

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Hils.

When the deal is done probably it will be cheered by some of the idiots in government and some of those on this thread without acknowledging that necessary reform and changes could be obtained without alienating the rest of Europe. (Leaving out the latent fascists who may be rejoicing.)

That is the sad thing about what is happening.

Bollox Fred we been trying to get the EU to reform for years and nothing has changed.

As for the cost of the upheaval , take it out of the money we won't be sending to Brussels.

infinitely more interesting than fred - or even football .......

sudden surge in the markets is almost certainly due to the note below (ex FT)

Steel users file legal challenge to Trump’s tariffs
A group of steel users has filed the first known legal challenge to steel tariffs imposed by Donald Trump earlier this year.
In a suit filed with the US Court of International Trade in New York on Wednesday the American Institute for International Steel and two of its member companies argue that the US president’s move is unconstitutional. They also challenge Mr Trump's invocation of a 1962 law to impose the 25 per cent tariff on national security grounds.

Looks like Trumpo is getting a taste of remainer type logic..



http://www.aiis.org/2018/06/american-institute-for-international-steel-files-lawsuit-challenging-constitutionality-of-section-232-steel-tariffs/

Fred1 -
"You remind me of sitting on a rock in the middle of the river Dordogne some years back and allowing the water to flow over me.

Temperature 39deg Centigrade.

I miss France."

What is stopping you Fred, are you an illegal immigrant, and prevented from entering France again?

Some of that water must have got in your head and damaged your brain.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44655080

The problem is they are talking to the monkeys rather than the organ grinders -or are the monkeys in charge ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44655080