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After the demise of his football career sol campbell trains to become a vet. On his first day he is called out to a local farm where two cows and two horses are about to give birth.The first cow goes into lengthy labour,meanwhile within minutes the two horses go into labour.Sol tends to the two horses but due to schoolboy errors he messes up and both newborns sadly die.After 45 minutes the first cow gives birth and sol promptly picks up his coat and gets ready to leave "where are you going?" asked the baffled farmer to which sol replies "i was badly at fault for the two foals so im not staying for the second calf

Dear o dear. :0 ))))

LOL!

WTA Dubai: http://lss.atptennis.com/2006/0718/frameset.asp?eventid=0718〈=en
WTA Bogota: http://www.copacolsanitas.com/marcador/marcador.asp
WTA & ATP Memphis: http://lss.atptennis.com/2006/0402/frameset.asp?eventid=0402&bgcolour=ffcc66〈=en
ATP Rotterdam: http://www.abnamrowtt.nl/sa/CC-score.html

WGC - Matchplay. Ogilvy/Love. Not much liquidity or even value in the match but there have been some over-round laying-the-field opportunities for small gains.

See betfair have changed the aesthetic appearance of the site in this mornings upgrade

Scrip

if about, any reason why when logged in via Betangel Pro in the bottom right hand corner it says "Logged on as false" and "Balance: 0.00"

and no i havent blown all my bank lol

Lot of unhappy people with the new format on the forum. Quite a few one click software arent working and most just dont like the look of it. Some also having probs submitting bets - tread carefully if using this afternoon as wouldnt be surprised if the site was to go down at some point

Steve, I have same "logged on as false" but zero balance corrected to actual after a second or two on log-in.

Scrip has just put up information on Message page

Scrip

teach me not to read the "message of the day".

When you have got a moment could you explain to me the difference between API and non API and how you get access, whether it costs and what are the benefits

TIA

No general difference but the API version will not exhibit these oddities. They came around because Betfair changed the code and this could not be interpreted by the NON API version. Because the API is the Betfair approved version they always give us advanced warning of any code changes. Not the same for the standard version.

We have modified the code and will release a new version tomorrow.

Thanks scrip

despite this a very pleasing day on the horses :-)

I'm doing OK but nothing special. Betfair wobbled a bit early so I was cautious for a few races.

Hello everyone,

I've been reading this thread for a short while, and thought I'd introduce myself! I've been betfairing for nearly four months now, and am quite pleased with a 33% increase in my bank :-). (Much better than what I was achieving with the shares!).
I've learned how to trade rather than gamble, and also to cut losses quickly rather than chase them.
Anyway, I've noticed that there is a book coming out next month ...
"Winning on Betfair for Dummies"
Jack Houghton
ISBN: 0-470-02856-4
Paperback
264 pages
24th March 2006
5.99
==============================================================
The world of betting is being transformed by internet betting exchanges, and theres none bigger than Betfair, the worlds leading online betting exchange. Winning on Betfair For Dummies is the definitive insiders guide, giving you a full picture of the way Betfair works, explaining the terms, lingo and jargon, and letting you in on insider knowledge and know-how. Its the perfect reference for the first time Betfair player, and also reveals tips and tricks to satisfy even the most seasoned punter.
Winning on Betfair FD includes information on:
Backing and laying
Placing more than one bet in a market
Betting in-play
Telephone, mobile phone and PDA betting
Trading, arbing and bots
Making a profession of it

Introduction.
Part 1: Starting Out.
Chapter 1: What is Betfair.
Chapter 2: Starting Out.
Chapter 3: Managing Your Account.
Chapter 4: Choosing Your Market.
Part 2: Lets Get Betting.
Chapter 5: Placing your first bet.
Chapter 6: Having More Than One Opinion.
Chapter 7: Betting In-Play.
Part 3: Getting Serious.
Chapter 8: Low Risk Betting: Trading.
Chapter 9: Low Risk Betting: Arbing.
Chapter 10: Automating Your Betting: Bots.
Chapter 11: Making a Profession of It.
Chapter 12: Problem Gambling.
Part 4: Part of Tens.
Chapter 13: Ten Common Mistakes.
Chapter 14: Ten Top Tips.
Chapter 15: Ten Most Amazing Betfair Markets.
Chapter 16: Ten Betfair Firsts.
Glossary.
==============================================================

I was wondering if any of you have any views on the book, or the Author etc. (OK I know it's not out yet!)
I'll probably buy it anyway, just to see if I'm missing anything!!!
I hope you don't mind me posting the details above, I'm not trying to detract from Scrip's courses, but the book is a tad cheaper!

Cheers for now.

P.S. The eagle eyed amongst you may have seen the occasional post by me on the betfair forum (crunchyfrog).

Hi crunchyfrog, welcome on board.

Havent heard of the book you are talking about though have read the Racing Posts "Definitive Guide to Betting Exchanges" which starts with the basics and then goes on to discuss a variety of potential techniques, one or two of which have become quite profitable for me :-)

For anyone who is interested, there is a new online "paper" for gambling and trading that started up today. It is currently very much in its infancy though may be worth keeping an eye on

http://www.thedailyprofit.co.uk

I have to apologise in advance for the poor quality of the cricket articles as they are written by me! (though if you read the current version you will see my draw lay first test and India series back are well in profit before a ball is bowled)

As for tonights cricket the prices may have over reacted to Englands dire team selection problems. Definitely out are Vaughan, Trescothick and S Jones and there are still doubts over a couple of others. The line up is likely to be:

Strauss
Cook
Bell
Collingwood
Pieterson
Flintoff (capt)
Jones (wk)
Blackwell
Harmison
Hoggard
Plunkett/Udal/Panesar (depending on fitness and the pitch)

The current prices will be about fair value to me if India win the toss and bat however I would expect quite a change if England win the toss and bat on what should be a good batting wicket (at least for the first couple of days). The big worry is the lack of experience left at the top of the order

Softbank(Japanese ) have bought 23% of Betfair valuing whole company at 1.5bn

So when will I be able to buy 0.0001% on the open market ???

:-)

Some very strange happenings on the site after the upgrade and also freezing occasionally, gonna watch and see before getting involved, just a bit too risky for me