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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Claret Dragon - 09 Jul 2018 22:27 - 9201 of 12628

I never thought the vote would be given. However when you are given the option in or out then you have to honour the outcome. I keep hearing from gutless wonders that nobody voted to be poorer. Utter bollox.

If the result went to stay in then I would have accepted it. Moaning like drains about a loss is something we have to accept everyday when trading. Cant ask for another go if it goes wrong.

May be I am thick skinned. Luvvies don't tend to be IMHO

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 00:16 - 9202 of 12628

cynic is a closet remainer, what do you expect?

Cerise Noire Girl - 10 Jul 2018 06:27 - 9203 of 12628

Have any more of your glorious leaders resigned overnight?

:o)

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 08:06 - 9204 of 12628

h/t to bob across the road.



Mr Bean Appointed As New UK Brexit Secretary

July 9, 2018 - BREAKING NEWS, POLITICS






FOLLOWING the sudden resignation of former UK Brexit secretary David Davis, prime minister Theresa May has announced her new appointment to the role, Mr. Bean.

Announcing his resignation just two days after warring factions in May’s cabinet approved a Brexit plan in a bid to unblock negotiations with Brussels, Davis wished Mr. Bean all the best in his new job, stating he couldn’t think of a better person to succeed him.




More: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2018/07/09/mr-bean-appointed-as-new-uk-brexit-secretary/

cynic - 10 Jul 2018 08:22 - 9205 of 12628

max - just more realistic and far less rabid than some here

iturama - 10 Jul 2018 08:31 - 9206 of 12628

No need to talk about Hilary like that C. She is suffering from gammon deprivation. A clear symptom of the menopause.
While on the subject of deprivation, universities (read polytecs and sundry mediocre schools) should now consider deprivation, not just marks, when assessing admission. As if recruitment to McDonald's has not been dumbed down enough.

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 10:54 - 9207 of 12628

Cerise Noire Girl - 10 Jul 2018 15:29 - 9208 of 12628

The gammon will be huffing and puffing at this.

:o)

Proselenes - 10 Jul 2018 16:22 - 9209 of 12628

Who cares what Labour think...........

Just let it continue and go to NO DEAL.

Fine........pay nothing to those EU asses and walk away......... WTO rules apply.

cynic - 10 Jul 2018 16:38 - 9210 of 12628

yup ... draw up the drawbridge, drop the portcullis and pour boiling tar over 'em all .... that'll larn 'em! ...... spiffing idea

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 21:12 - 9211 of 12628

No c, wto is anything but.

It's out in the big wide world, without the protection racket which is the €U.


Sounds like Trumpo is going to blow them up anyway, the trade imbalance is astounding (sound familiar?)

Not to mention the €urobuns expecting everyone else to pay for their defense.

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 23:24 - 9212 of 12628

Nicked from across the road


Proselenes - 11 Jul 2018 06:36 - 9213 of 12628

Yep MaxK.

US politicos have merrily been allowing the EU and China to have massive trade surpluses with the USA in return for their nearest and dearest getting very rich.

Trump is going to blow that all away.............. if they are unwilling to accept a zero tariff on everything, then trade will be like for like. US buys 100B from EU, then EU buys 100B from US.

That is why the liberal media and liberal lefty loons hate Trump. He simply is doing things right and is pissing off the snouts in the trough big time.

Look at the protection the EU affords to French farmers, its a prime example that the EU is just a racket, its corrupt, it serves no good for the majority.

WTO rules will make the cost of living in the UK fall........... but the Remoaners will never want to admit that.

The rest of the world is far bigger than the EU..........how can having a better trade relationship with them be detrimental......only in the eyes of a Remoaner.

Cerise Noire Girl - 11 Jul 2018 06:43 - 9214 of 12628

Of course it matters what Labour think! It has done ever since Maggie Dismay lost her Commons majority, and was forced into giving MP's a meaningful vote on her Brexit deal.

Since then, the cracks in the Conservative party have just got deeper and deeper, and any gammon who can't see that there is a very real prospect of the government falling on its sword this autumn, and of Brexit not happening is looking at life through rose-tinted specs.

And if Maggie does survive, and Brexit does go ahead, then post-Brexit Britain will look no different to pre-Brexit Britain.

And George Soros has barely dipped into his warchest yet.....

Proselenes - 11 Jul 2018 07:49 - 9215 of 12628

There will be no deal..........thats looking more and more likely.

We are leaving the EU and if no deal is done, then we go out with no deal at all.

That is a good result.....back to WTO rules and totally and utterly out of Europe.

iturama - 11 Jul 2018 08:18 - 9216 of 12628

You lost the argument when you brought up Soros Hilary. I suspect the majority of people are furious with what has been going on and a revote would have an even bigger majority to leave. But that is not going to happen. The EU Withdrawal Bill is now law.

Proselenes - 11 Jul 2018 10:19 - 9217 of 12628

Soros...........please dont mention that complete #$@$'s name.

Russian meddling in the US election........ ???

Soros meddling in how many countries..... ??? He is the worst of the very worst in my view.

Dil - 11 Jul 2018 10:21 - 9218 of 12628

I'll settle for no deal and keeping our money.

I reckon that's what Boris and co will aim for now too and the only way May will pass anything is ith the support of Labour.

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2018 12:10 - 9219 of 12628

And put the barbed wire and barriers up again at Dover.

(To stop the brits getting out or other Europeans getting in?)

The good old days of 1939!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqtaoz4QFX8


Dafter and dafter!

required field - 11 Jul 2018 12:12 - 9220 of 12628

My Mum and Dad were on the cliffs watching Dunkirk unfold from a distance at the start of the war.....euhhh...during the war.....
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