Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Saw David Cameron in the village where I live on Saturday, getting his bikes serviced at a local Cyling shop. He was in what seemed like an ebullient mood and happy with the world. Well rid of it all I suspect, who would be a PM? Everything that goes wrong from act of god downwards is your fault.
Not long now eh Dil? I will start stocking up the disused nuclear shelter with baked beans, corned beef and beer as the end of the world begins huh.
O ps must not forget to pack dvds of England’s Rugby WC win.

What a really scintillating dance and song routine from Theresa.

Or was it a drone for the faithful and based on false hope.

Belongs to times past.

Rule Britania M + J.


Mind it should keep M and D happy.

Is it true Central Office sent a hearse to take TM home, by-passing the Priory Hospital?

I bet David Cameron regrets giving us the referendum even though he probably would never admit it, …...but there you go he gave Britain a choice….from his point of view he probably should have just said no the backbenchers and let the Tory party split in two....then we would perhaps still be in the EU.... harsh... the Tories would have recovered in time,... but probably not without at least one Labour government taking control....

Never mind though , austerity has ended apparently , or she's attempting to smooth talk herself into favour , everything in the garden gonna be rosy .

RF.

Would you prefer this.



By the way who has suffered from and whose is still suffering from the tory austerity program imposed by Osborne and Cameron and how will it compare with the Brexit austerity program.

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What happened to jimmy B , Chris Carson and MaxK by the way , do they feel betrayed by events .

there was only a referendum because of the threat of ukip

if limp lettuce corbyn had properly supported remain, which is what his party members wanted at the time even if jc personally did not, then it is very probable that remain would indeed have won the day

anyway, a reasonable majority of the country has voted to leave, and in one form or another, that is what will happen - and no 2nd referendum either

Regardless of what side your on. How we all preparing for next 6 to 12 months?

I bailed out over a year ago apart from a few bits and pieces.

Hope I am wrong but I reckon its going to get a bit rocky again.

Not just EU situation.

Still here V, unfortunately so is Treeza..


Boris Johnson welcomes Donald Tusk 'Canada +++' Brexit trade deal offer as 'superb way forward'



By Christopher Hope, Chief Political Correspondent ;
James Crisp, Brussels Correspondent and
Kate McCann, Senior Political Correspondent
4 October 2018 • 6:34pm




The European Union is ready to offer Britain a form of “Canada-plus” Brexit trade deal, Donald Tusk has said in a move described as a “superb way forward” by arch-critic Boris Johnson.

Mr Tusk, the European Council president, also demanded that Theresa May’s government “get down to business” and solve the Irish border issue to seal a Brexit deal.

The comments put pressure on the Prime Minister to change strategy and open talks on a Canada-plus deal ahead of a crucial meeting of EU leaders in 10 days time.

Eurosceptic Conservative MPs like Mr Johnson back a looser Canada-plus free trade deal with the EU over the closer vision agreed by Mrs May’s Cabinet at her Chequers country home.




more: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/10/04/donald-tusk-offers-britain-canada-brexit-trade-deal-demands/

Is that a bit more to your liking MaxK , bearing in mind the alternatives .

Yes V, a trading deal without the political strings.

Martini , come off it DVDs weren't invented when England won the RWC. You might be able to get one of the last they managed to get past the group stage though.

175 days to go Fred , keep smiling soon be there.

That's good to hear you say that , but as you also say Treez still there , the one who big time messed up the last election re introducing " Hunting " into the equation . She seems on another Planet unfortunately .

I just had an interesting conversation with someone who originally voted to stay in the EU.

He said, he wished "we should just leave now, and if there was another referendum he would vote leave, as we are a democracy and that was the decision of the people". He didn't care about what "may or may not" happen as "we could sort it all out afterwards" - this negotiation "rubbish" is just a waste of everyone's time and we should just leave and then negotiate afterwards.

i'm somewhat amused and bemused by the way so many on here deride TM and her negotiations with EU
none has any suggestion as to who might do a better job and of course the pull-up-the-drawbridge brigade display unbelievable naivety at best

Yes it is a load of bunkum , the whinging remoamers , the Companies putting out warnings if there's no deal , probably after sweeteners , do you see Aldi or Lidl putting out warnings , no , but here they are content to build more and more stores Nationwide . We've now got three here , and extending two of them . We need someone with a bit of GRUNT .

LW

Do you think somebody, who is wishing to commit suicide and was certain about the decision they made some time ago was the right one, based on a false interpretation of their understanding of their medical condition made some time ago, shouldn't be enlightened and given a chance to review the contemplated action?

It is a little like digging up a garden in winter without having seen it bloom in Summer.

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Man,

The problem with May is that she has to deal with her own conceit and attempted deception of those around her.

Also, other than the pro-brexit rabble in the tories and labour the only sensible MPS capable of taking in the totality of necessary negotiations into consideration are Remainers.

The likes of Ken and Dominic would do.

But who negotiating with the UK will trust them in the future.

Who cares Fred , 25 weeks today and it's party time.

I've been of the same view of the Brexit talks as lw's friend from the start. Just get out and and if they want a trade deal we'll see what we can do for them then.

Oh and while your at it Fred , how about we re run every general election held in the just hundred years as I'm sure there were misrepresentations made by the winning side before each one.

Biggest ones at the last election were by the losers , namely yes we support Brexit and we will write off student debt.

Have a great weekend Fred , have a trip to France or something before they ban us travelling there by plane , or that's what the remoaners are saying if we don't give them a deal.

Dil.

"Oh and while your at it Fred , how about we re run every general election held in the just hundred years as I'm sure there were misrepresentations made by the winning side before each one.


If you hadn't realised there is a chance to revise the results and actions of a General Election, at least every 5 years.

Seems common democratic sense to me.

Suggest you read the manifestos more carefully.


I think the "student debt" and "fees" are a perversion in a developed society.

But I guess they are to your taste.