bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Brandname
- 03 Oct 2005 15:07
- 10481 of 27111
Driver
Withdrawn.
greekman
- 03 Oct 2005 15:12
- 10482 of 27111
Bugz.
If SEO concentrate on their other products to the detriment of Greenseal I would have to agree, but as they no doubt have seperate teams focusing on each development I still consider that they have the right approach, as long as they don't overstretch. I must admit the danger of overstretching has caused me some concern in the past but they appear capable of promoting several products at once. They also appear to have the follow up capability in place, or if they have not they quickly get geared up ( manpowerwise ) to do so. Only time will tell.
paulmasterson1
- 03 Oct 2005 15:17
- 10483 of 27111
New from EVO today in their daily notes !!!!
Stanelco (SEO.L) Update Buy 16p/30p
In a bizarre twist, Stanelco has put up for auction the rights to its starch-based
cellulose cigarette filter. This was part of the IP acquired when it bought Biotec,
its 50:50 joint venture. The value could be substantial.
No need to thank me for the hard work I put in on this 2 weekends ago :)
Cheers,
PM
Fred1new
- 03 Oct 2005 15:29
- 10484 of 27111
PM1 I have never doubted you. Who are you ? where do you post?
You are not standing for PM are you?
Phart68
- 03 Oct 2005 15:34
- 10485 of 27111
Nice find PM. ;-)
Brandname
- 03 Oct 2005 16:28
- 10487 of 27111
Driver, withdrawn.
Brandname
- 03 Oct 2005 16:38
- 10489 of 27111
LOL
Friends again then, have withdrawn all posts.
qc
- 03 Oct 2005 17:05
- 10490 of 27111
I'm sorry driver but I want to see the info from Captain Guide posted here. Its wrong that you can contemplate dictating to others whats posted because you think its crap.
proptrade
- 03 Oct 2005 17:12
- 10491 of 27111
i am sure this has been posted but i can't be shagged to go through the lasted 742 posts...
October 03, 2005 08:00 AM US Eastern Timezone
Clean and Green - a Better Cigarette Filter is Near; Starch Based Filter from Stanelco Reduces Cancer Risk and Environmental Impact
ORLANDO, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 3, 2005--Cigarette filters could soon be made of starch according to research at Biotec, a joint owned subsidiary of Stanelco and SP Metal. Starch is a natural compound found in organic products such as potatoes and rice, meaning smokers would not have to worry that fibers from the current filters, made of cellulose acetate, are entering their bodies. Similar good news is that starch based filters are biodegradable and compostable, dramatically lowering their impact on the environment.
Filters are primarily designed to reduce the tar in tobacco smoke and to stop tobacco flakes from entering the mouths of smokers. They typically each contain around 12,000 fibers of cellulose acetate, a synthetic fiber of which more than 680,000 tons are used in cigarettes each year. Medical studies have observed these fibers in the lungs of smokers and that they not only resist biodegrading, but that they remain coated in tobacco tar, which contains carcinogens. Medical researchers are presently trying to define the risk that this poses to smokers.
Stanelco, the company that holds the global patents to the starch material used for the filter tow (application EP0861036-A1) and its use as a cigarette filter (EP1567025-A), is currently in discussions with cigarette manufacturers in Europe, America and Asia about the replacement of cellulose acetate based filters. Starch based filter tow is also substantially cheaper (30-50% at current bulk prices) than that based on cellulose acetate.
The filters are just one of a range of innovative starch based solutions from Stanelco that will reduce the use of plastic and other synthetic substances, so dramatically reducing the environmental impact. Starch is a natural substance, and even when used in products such as food packaging or cigarette filters is still fully compostable.
Howard White, Group Managing Director, and President, Stanelco Inc, commented, "It is deeply ironic that most smokers believe that filters improve their safety. There is increasing evidence that this may not be the case. We believe filters made from starch based materials will be better for smokers and better for the environment. While smokers are aware of the risks of inhaling tobacco smoke, there are very few who understand the risks of using the current filters."
"Also, filters all too often end up being dropped on the ground or at the roadside, and even when properly disposed of take many years to decompose. Our starch based filters will fully compost in as little as 60 days, with no negative effects on either soil or water supply.
"Given the very real benefits they offer, together with the fact that starch based filter tow is cheaper than cellulose acetate, there is a real opportunity to further reduce the impact of smoking. As the cigarette makers know, there is no safe cigarette, but that does not mean that they should not be cleaner and greener.
"Stanelco specializes in starch based products that are designed and manufactured to minimize the environmental impact of modern life. As a company, we take pride in our green credentials and an ethical outlook. It is widely accepted that smoking cigarettes damages health, but we believe that while it is legal, it is right to minimize the negative effects wherever possible We do not promote smoking, which is why we plan to divest ourselves of this product."
Stanelco intends to divest the filter tow technology to focus on its starch businesses, including Starpol 2000(TM) and GREENSEAL(TM) biodegradable packaging, which are just being introduced across a wide range of product packaging in U.S. and British supermarkets.
"It would border on irresponsibility if cigarette companies did not explore options presented to lower the risk of cancer. Potentially, if research proves correct, cigarette companies could be held liable for not adopting technology to lower the risks associated with smoking. Stanelco is very excited to have the opportunity to possibly save lives with this development, and we look forward to helping to change the cigarette industry for the better," said Stephanie Morgan-Fisher, director and CEO of North American Operations, Stanelco.
-- More than 90% of the cigarettes sold worldwide have a filter.
-- Virtually all filters consist of a rod of numerous (greater than 12 000) plastic-like cellulose acetate fibers. Fragments of cellulose acetate that form the mouthpiece of a filter rod become separated from the filter at the end phase during the manufacturing process.
-- The cut surface of the filter of virtually all cigarettes has these fragments. When smoking a cigarette, some of these fragments are released during inhalation.
-- Tests in the USA on 12 popular brands show that fibers are inhaled and also ingested.
-- Laser scanning has found filter fibers in the lung tissue of patients with lung cancer.
-- Cellulose Acetate filter tow has a wholesale price of US $4,000 per ton, substantially higher than starch based filter tow.
greekman
- 03 Oct 2005 17:38
- 10492 of 27111
Tobacco companies are worth billions. If they think anything might be gained re approaching SEO regarding the patents they might act quickly prior to delayed further research in order to prevent a competitor from acquiring said patent. A few mill to these companies is petty cash.
Fred1new
- 03 Oct 2005 17:57
- 10494 of 27111
I thought Super TOny was becoming a dictator, but Driver have you joined that club?
Fred1new
- 03 Oct 2005 17:57
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Sorry Super Phoney!
qc
- 03 Oct 2005 18:46
- 10496 of 27111
I will take great delight in enlightening everyone on here when he does.
Oilywag
- 03 Oct 2005 19:03
- 10497 of 27111
qc
Feel free to do that.
The oily one
paulmasterson1
- 03 Oct 2005 19:10
- 10498 of 27111
Part of my work from 2 weekends ago, a bit that I don't think I posted on here, but very interesting ....
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Not many companies sell to the Chinese State Tobacco Monopoly, as well as the rest of the world, and they have big manufacturing facilities.
"Celanese is the world's largest manufacturer of cellulose acetate filament and tow. Both products are derived from cellulose and acetic acid; the filament is made into fabrics, the tow is processed into cigarette filters and other products. Celanese's acetate business has a strong foundation in the size and efficiency of its production plants as well as in its leading technology. A significant factor for its success is its global market presence that supports partnerships with leading customers worldwide.
With acetate manufacturing in the NAFTA region, Europe, and China, Celanese can meet the needs of large regional and international customers. China, where the company has joint ventures to manufacture cigarette filter tow, represents 27 % of the global market for this product. Based on its presence and experience in operating in the Pacific Rim, Celanese Acetate has now become the biggest supplier of acetate tow in that region. This position depends on imports from our North American production sites, as well as its joint ventures in Kumming, Nantong and Zhuhai.
The customers for filter products in China are the companies which comprise the State Tobacco Monopoly (STMA), the world's biggest cigarette manufacturer.""
http://www.celanese.com/
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Below is another interesting bit about Celanese's
rising polymer prices from their news section.
Ticona increases prices for polymers
Further rise in raw materials, energy and freight costs
Kelsterbach, September 21, 2005 Effective from October 17, 2005,
Ticona, the technical polymers business of Celanese Corporation, is increasing the prices of polyacetal, polyester products (PET, PBT, blends, and elastomers), and long-glass-fiber-reinforced thermoplastics. The company is reacting to the sharp rise of raw materials prices on the world market within the past few weeks, as well as the further shortage of preliminary products. Amongst other factors, the continuously high costs for fuel have also led to an increase in freight rates.
Over the past few years, the price of some intermediates and raw materials has more than
doubled, and just in recent months there has been yet another
considerable increase. As a consequence of the increasing prices of raw materials the costs for transport are also increasing globally. "Energy costs continuously climb, too", explains Michael Oberste-Wilms, Head of Sales Europe at Ticona.
"Within the past few months we have been discussing with many clients and suppliers the sustainability of higher raw materials and energy costs, which have increased steadily since end of 2004. Today, we have to accept that we are far away from normalisation. Despite great efforts,
we are no longer able to compensate for the increasing pressure on costs by an increase in productivity alone."
With effect from October 17, 2005 the prices are being raised as follows:
Hostaform (POM) 150 /t
Celanex (PBT) 200 /t
Impet (PET) 200 /t
Vandar (thermoplastic polyester blends) 200 /t
Riteflex (TPE-E) 200 /t
Celstran (LFT) 150 /t
Compel (LFT) 150 /t
paulmasterson1
- 03 Oct 2005 19:58
- 10499 of 27111
The easy way to sell a product, or in this case the IP, is to show it is cheaper, and better than that currently used, ie it is a no-brainer for the buyer ....
680,000 tons of filter tow are used in cigarettes each year
Starch based filter tow is substantially cheaper (30-50% at current bulk prices) than that based on cellulose acetate.
We believe filters made from starch based materials will be better for smokers and better for the environment.
While smokers are aware of the risks of inhaling tobacco smoke, there are very few who understand the risks of using the current filters.
Also, filters all too often end up being dropped on the ground or at the roadside, and even when properly disposed of take many years to decompose. Our starch based filters will fully compost in as little as 60 days, with no negative effects on either soil or water supply.
Cellulose Acetate filter tow has a wholesale price of US $4,000 per ton, substantially higher than starch based filter tow
currently in discussions with cigarette manufacturers in Europe, America and Asia about the replacement of cellulose acetate based filters
$4,000 x 680,000 tons = $2,720,000,000 per annum market, and using starch based filter tow, saves the industry $816,000,000 to $1,360,000,000 - no doubt a VERY important statistic as far as cigarette manufacturers are concerned, they want to lower the cost, so that more people can afford their cigarettes !!!!
Now the mind really boggles at the potential value of the IP !
EVO said today in their Daily Notes ....
Stanelco (SEO.L) Update Buy 16p/30p
In a bizarre twist, Stanelco has put up for auction the rights to its starch-based
cellulose cigarette filter. This was part of the IP acquired when it bought Biotec,
its 50:50 joint venture. The value could be substantial
Up for auction to the HIGHEST BIDDER, IP that can save the winner 30% to 50% of it's costs, and hammer the competitors prices and products = HOT PROPERTY :)
Cheers,
PM
paulmasterson1
- 03 Oct 2005 20:06
- 10500 of 27111
Have I already found the highest bidder ????
Celanese Corporation (NYSE:CE) is an integrated global producer of value-added industrial chemicals based in Dallas, Texas. The Company has four major businesses: Chemicals Products, Technical Polymers Ticona, Acetate Products and Performance Products. Celanese has production plants in 13 countries in North America, Europe and Asia. In 2004, Celanese Corporation and its predecessor had combined
net sales of $5.1 billion. The presentation of combined net sales of Celanese Corporation with its predecessor is not in accordance with U.S. GAAP. For more information on Celanese Corporation including a reconciliation of the combined net sales, please visit the company's web site at
http://www.celanese.com/