Renewable players - any thoughts on whether CFU can really challenge CWR for its Fuel Cell Crown?

Link to CFU's Homepage -

http://www.cfcl.com.au/

Missed that announcement as was out yesterday, looking good, might get back in having banked profit last year.

Holding up well at the moment.
At last a Fuel Cell company that has a viable product to bring to market.
If the proviso`s are met, then this order will be one of many to come.
I bought back in yesterday and eagerly await some more orders from perhaps E-ON.
Here`s hoping.
Cheers.

Fuel cells are coming, sooner or later the market will wake up big time to the likes of ITM (orders needed) and CFU and one or two others !

Does anyone know "how" this new plant in Germany is to be paid-for?

Anyone confirm this is an Australian business...?

In here. Looks set for a decent rise imo.

This placing of new shares sounds like a good thing as there are new institutional investors but the market sees it as a bad thing as the SP went down. Whats peoples thoughts?
Thanks
Simon

THESE ARE FLYING BEEN HOLDING FOR A WHILE TOPPED UP FIRST THING THIS MORNING

Moved up today,results on 28.8 08.

Partially relevant
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/06/offgrid_man_jai.php

Moving up again what is going on??

But not today - Results day!!!!

Running out of cash...


Ceramic Fuel in cash raising discussions

Ceramic Fuel Cells says it is continuing to pursue several options to raise additional cash, including equity funding. The Company has also been looking to liquidate some of its financial investments, subject to market conditions and pricing.

The Company has recently sold one of its investments for A$2.4m / 1.1m cash. This investment was sold at a discount of 50%, representing an impairment of $2.4m to its face value.

In October the Company announced that it was likely to take an impairment charge of up to $13m for one of its investments. The Company is exploring several options to realise value from this investment which would reduce the amount of this impairment charge.

Ceramic says it is currently in discussions with several existing institutional investors about a potential equity fundraising. The Company expects to make an announcement about the outcome of these discussions, and give a further update on its finances, shortly.

The Company is looking at taking legal action to recover losses suffered in relation to its investments and has received an offer to fund the costs of this litigation. The Company will provide a further update if and when it accepts this offer.

This would be a major shame, as a previous investor in CFU, the technology being developed would be an advantage for everyone in the future.
Surely could be an opportunity for an energy company to take-over?

It makes a very good read.
This is the news we have been waiting for although still waiting to see what they will do on the financing front. They seem to be handling it well though - Taking legal action, liquidating investments etc.
The product news is fantastic and they have basically met their requirements for the nuon order. Factory put back to October but not really an issue.
The market in the UK can't see this good news though as they are a bunch of muppets!!!!!

I can't believe no one has noticed the sharp rise in this one---blue sky potential ??I hope so I 've bought in. New products being launched and recent funds raised.

Up 10% on news today. My sleeper has woken.

new factory due to open early october in Germany--lots of orders to follow then I hope.

See post 112 first.

History will soon repeat itself, because the Q1 2010 cash burn was 4m. This only leaves enough cash at that burn rate to last until mid-November 2010. Meanwhile CFU sales of single units into trials won't see any sales from those trials until the trials are completed, the trouble is they all kick off in Q2 2010 or later and are all scheduled to last for 12 months to 24 months, so no sales there until after CFU run out of cash.

Aside from existing trials, the CEO has stated in RNS that he only expects to sell 'a couple of hundred units in 2010'. This won't cover the operating costs because CFU need to sell 2,366 units at 40% margin just to cover the current burn rate.

IMVHO CFU will need to raise enough cash to last until they can reach break-even.

The CEO says he 'expects to sell a couple of thousand units in 2011', which is a possibility if they can convert the one year trials into orders when they fininsh in Q2 2011 or later. The thing is, it's not guaranteed that they will, or even if they do, that they will then sell enough units to reach break-even in 2011.

Therefore I believe CFU will need to cover themselves for cash into mid-2012, by which time some of the longer term deals should bring in some sales and they should make it to break-even.

The result of my research outlined above, is that CFU will need to raise 16m to get to Nov 2011, and a further 10m to reach break-even in mid-2012.

So following the 'history repeats itself' refernce post 112, I see CFU raising 26m very soon. This is a huge amount to raise. It will have to be done at a big discount to the current share price. It will create huge dilution for shareholders.

I see CFU as a sell. Buy back after the fund raising with a view to profitability in H2 2012.

You might be interested in the Hoodless Brennan view of mCHP.

29/06/2010
AFC remains the forgotten fuel-cell in institutional investors who seem fixated on Ceres and CFCL. Sooner or later they will have to recognise the opportunity for AFC is more realistic with Chlor-Alkali producers and Underground Coal Gasification than with consumers replacing boilers Continued SPECULATIVE BUY.

http://www.hbmarkets.com/stock-research-prices/small-cap-flash/read/