Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

CT.

I would have preferred to be in the Eurozone but accepted we weren't.

The exchange "artists" have made a bomb by pressing buttons.

"few jobs in London are expected to be affected."

What is happening to property prices and why?

The EU negotiators have been playing politics all their lives, do you think T Maybe's bluffing and other "exiters" huffing and puffing would sway them.

More likely irritates them, at the moment they are being polite.

Some Brexiters have watched too many American gangster films.

So Fred what is happening to property prices in the UK?

House prices
UK house price growth stagnates on back of Brexit concerns


https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/jan/31/uk-house-price-growth-stagnates-on-back-of-brexit-concerns

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/jan/21/up-to-25-per-cent-wiped-off-house-prices-some-of-uk-wealthiest-areas-brexit

So what is your view on the slowing of the housing market - a good thing or bad thing Fred?

Never happened before Brexit did it Fred ?

I read there was going to be an almighty house price crash on the 24th June 2016 if we voted leave.

It was probably Carney or the IMF who predicted it.

We did think last year about selling our flat in Kensington, and we had an agent go round. He basically said that stuff was taking much longer to shift since the referendum because the overseas buyers had dried up with Brexit uncertainty. For a sale, he reckoned it would go for about 20% less than it would have 18 months earlier.

Dil, talking to someone today and they reminded me that considering the vast amount of investment Wales have benefited from since their membership of Europe only a fool would vote to come out.

This excepting that the a Conservative Government would get nowhere near that level of investment in the Welsh infrastructure.

So why on earth did you vote out?

Investment ???

Don't fecking start me off !

Got a bloody road not far from me with a sign on it saying paid for by the EU. It was not bloody paid for by the EU as we sent them twice as much as we get back so the sign should read paid for by the UK twice over.

Wales has lost thousands upon thousands of jobs to low cost east European countries as our hands are tied when it comes to helping our own firms.

Stuff their investment , name one thing it has paid for that we wouldn't have paid for ourselves anyway.

That's right, Stan.

I read a few weeks back that both Wales and Cornwall have received around 1,000 euros per head of population to fund regional economic growth. I think those were the two highest benefiting regions of the UK.

But therein lies the whole problem with Brexit. So many leave voters were just unhappy with life in general - lack of jobs, lack of opportunity, a general feeling that they were being ignored and that life was passing them by. Vote Leave harnessed that frustration and anger, and conned them into thinking that they'd be taking back control of their lives if the left the EU.

Well who the feck did they give my 1k too cos I haven't had it !

Probably gave it to some useless hill farmer , they're always pleading poverty.

Ask in the Sheepshaggers Arms, Dil. They might have left it behind the bar.

Fred have you nothing to say about the home situation?

Yes Hilary Cornwall too, and Dil I completely understand the "cheap labour from Europe" keeping the wages and conditions down over here, but just think do you really believe that the Government will stop bringing cheap labour in from the rest of the World if Brexit were to happen..of course not!

"Got a bloody road not far from me with a sign on it saying paid for by the EU. It was not bloody paid for by the EU as we sent them twice as much as we get back so the sign should read paid for by the UK twice over."

But there's the assumption that the money would actually have been spent by us.. with the evedence of a Conservative Government I would say it would not.

CT.

The Housing Market represents the fears of the general market and personal confidence and personal security "feeling" and is often a precursor to what "people" are thinking about what is going to happen.

Hilary,

The Brexit referendum was as you stated, a demonstration of the frustration felt by many over "austerity". It was a vote against Cameron and Osborne and government policies.

The "getting back control" and other promises were camouflage and not indicative of the result and chaos which "exiting" will cause.

The UK will still have to bow to International Laws, Rules and Regulations, but with less "authority" to "modify" them.

The goals and consequences of the stupidity of exiting were not explained.

Just for the satisfaction of the "Up and at 'em brigade" of bar stool stalwarts.

The problem is that the present dishonest bunch of MPs (Left and right) doesn't have the "guts" to admit that Brexit is a mistake and force "another referendum" with the probable consequences explained.)

But watch the flow of investment from the UK to Europe and the City to Paris and Brussels etc..)

It is bloody daft.

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The employers defined the levels of pay.

The government could modify the "rates" of pay or as well as "subsidised" key "occupations". (They already do so. But period extensions are possible to many areas. The problem is that taxation is then being to utilised for uneconomical often privately owned businesses.)

Jump up and down, stamp your feet, throw your dummies out, cry it is unfair I want a recount, we are leaving tick tock tick tock

Dumbo.

I am just sad not angry.

My guesses are that I am protected against what is likely to happen if a so-called "Hard Brexit" goes through. But many of the public are not as fortunate and will suffer unnecessarily.

But with luck, your gloating will be misplaced.

Now jumbo what’s with the silly names. By the way did you ever shed any of the weight you carried around?

That was you in the photos I have of a bb meeting in the Barton Arms wasn’t it?