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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 15:49 - 1221 of 12628

Would you like some of my friends Fred and Stan ,their very good.

Dear Friend,

We send £350 million a week to the EU – enough to build a new hospital a week
250,000 EU migrants a year come to the UK – it’s out of control and damages the NHS
It’s safer to take back control and spend our money on our priorities

Imagine if we Vote Leave in 60 days’ time… We can help protect patients by ensuring that we can check the qualifications of doctors coming from the EU.
BBC: The Great Debate - On 21 June, the BBC will be holding a televised EU debate at the Wembley Arena. The event will feature senior representatives from Vote Leave and the IN campaign. To reserve your place click here.

Vote Leave to save our NHS
Today we launched our latest campaign advert which warns of the dangers to the NHS of voting to stay in the EU. We send £350 million to the EU every week, money which would be much better spent on our priorities like the NHS.

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 15:50 - 1222 of 12628

Our public services are already under huge pressure from uncontrolled migration. As Michael Gove wrote in the Times today, this will only get worse as countries such as Turkey, Macedonia and Albania join the EU. The Justice Secretary states that ‘we cannot guarantee the same access people currently enjoy to healthcare and housing if these trends continue’.
The only way to take back control of our borders and ease the pressure on our NHS and public services is to Vote Leave on 23 June.

Theresa May admits we can’t control migration whilst inside EU
The Home Secretary Theresa May said yesterday that free movement within the EU makes it harder to control immigration. She admitted that EU membership makes this impossible and that David Cameron has failed to bring any powers back from the EU to change that.
More than a quarter of a million people came to the UK from the EU over the last twelve months – a city the size of Newcastle – which adds to the pressures on our NHS and other public services. After we Vote Leave we can create a fairer immigration policy which welcomes in the brightest and best from around the world, whilst easing the strain on our public services. Let’s take back control on 23 June.

UK in a strong position to strike a US trade deal
President Obama rounded off his trip to back the David Cameron’s IN campaign by warning that any UK/US trade deal could take up to a decade to complete. However, the evidence suggests otherwise.
The US signed major free trade agreements with Canada and Australia in under 2 years. Conversely, we have been a member of the EU for over 40 years yet Brussels has failed to strike a deal with the US. Further, the US has signed bilateral agreements with 20 countries - all with smaller economies than the UK’s - which contradicts Obama’s claim that they are only looking to deal with trading blocs.
The UK is a major export market for the US, with nearly $120 billion of American goods and services entering the UK market. As the fifth largest economy in the world, we are in a strong position to negotiate a deal to benefit both UK and US businesses after we Vote Leave on 23 June.

cynic - 25 Apr 2016 15:59 - 1223 of 12628

NHS
a slight tangent ......
the gov't claims that BMA is using the threat of the doctors' strike as a direct political assault
i think may be some truth in this, as certainly the BMA is left wing and militant

2517GEORGE - 25 Apr 2016 16:11 - 1224 of 12628

The UK is 5.6% of the EU area and has 12.6% of the EU population, based on 2013 figures
2517

VICTIM - 25 Apr 2016 16:23 - 1225 of 12628

Denmark should consider a referendom on it's relation's with the EU , a key ally of the minority government said on Monday .

Stan - 25 Apr 2016 16:34 - 1226 of 12628

Alf being Alf again.. you really should not rely on the usual Murdoch propaganda machine to influence your thinking.

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 16:38 - 1227 of 12628

VIC i'll post this again Austria have had enough !!


Austria have had enough !!! Merkel may have broken up Europe on her own .


Austria election: Far-right tops first round of presidential vote

Austria's far-right Freedom Party candidate has come top in the first round of presidential elections, preliminary results show.
Norbert Hofer has about 36% of the votes for the mostly ceremonial role - not enough to avoid a run-off in May.
He is likely to face Alexander Van der Bellen, an independent contender backed by the Greens, who is polling 20%.
For the first time since World War Two, the candidates from Austria's two main parties did not make it to the run-off.
Rudolf Hundstorfer from the Social Democrats and the centre-right People's Party Andreas Kohl are each thought to have taken about 11% of the vote.
Both parties have governed Austria for decades - either alone or in coalition.
This is a big shake-up in Austrian politics, the BBC's Bethany Bell in Vienna reports, as the country has had a president from the centre-left or centre-right since 1945.
The clear victory of the far-right candidate reflects widespread discontent with the status quo, as well as concerns about immigration and the economy, our correspondent says.
Support for the Social Democrats and the People's Party has been falling in recent years.
In the last general elections in 2013, the two parties won just enough votes to govern in a "grand coalition"

Fred1new - 25 Apr 2016 16:46 - 1228 of 12628

Sounds like the looney right and neo-fascist are fighting in Austria as well as in the UK.
They should join up with UKIP and the BNP and Right wing tories.

But it is a bit like Dumbo, Huff, and Puff.

VICTIM - 25 Apr 2016 16:46 - 1229 of 12628

The guy on the Denmark situation didn't want an in or out vote , he wanted less interference from Brussels and the right to make their own decisions on Immigration etc . Now if this lot of nutcases got together and listened to it's members and acted in their interest this whole thing could be sorted quite quickly , but they won't .

VICTIM - 25 Apr 2016 16:49 - 1230 of 12628

Freda do you pre programme yourself to regurgitate the same old spiel day in day out .

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 16:55 - 1231 of 12628

Freda is properly thick VIC ,nice rhyme that.

cynic - 25 Apr 2016 16:58 - 1232 of 12628

1229 - which is exactly why i shall be voting "out" ...... unlike fred, i won't regurgitate what i hope for from the result

VICTIM - 25 Apr 2016 16:59 - 1233 of 12628

Some of the best laughs i've had on here . How come you get a special name jimmy off him .

Stan - 25 Apr 2016 17:00 - 1234 of 12628

JB talking about something else he knows a lot about.. being thick!

jimmy b - 25 Apr 2016 17:08 - 1235 of 12628

I'm so important VIC that Fred has made up names for me , he and his admirer Stan hang on my every word .

VICTIM - 25 Apr 2016 17:10 - 1236 of 12628

Hope he doesn't dream about you .

Stan - 25 Apr 2016 17:43 - 1237 of 12628

JB important?.. oh yeah a legend in his own lunch time

Fred1new - 25 Apr 2016 18:10 - 1238 of 12628

Vicky,

I don't have nightmares.

MaxK - 25 Apr 2016 21:38 - 1239 of 12628

Obama Brexit Blowback - Majority Of Brits Think Comments "Inappropriate"


Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/25/2016 11:50 -0400


Who could have seen that coming? It appears President Obama's ill-advised Op-Ed and visit to The United Kingdom, exhorting his "friends" to 'just say no' to Brexit and vote democratically to stay part of an undemocratic superstate, has backfired for the establishment. A poll by YouGov suggests that Obama's high profile intervention in the UK's EU Referendum failed with 65% of Brits seeing his comments were not "appropriate."






As SputnikNews reports, Mr Obama's pro-European plea sparked angry responses from a number of high profile advocates of a 'Brexit', not least the Conservative London Mayor, Boris Johnson:


"For us to be bullied in this way, I don't want to exaggerate, for people to say we are going to be unable to cope on our own is absolutely wrong."





Read the comment:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/obama-brexit-blowback-majority-brits-think-comments-inappropriate

Stan - 25 Apr 2016 22:45 - 1240 of 12628

Oh for pete's sake you muppets don't actually read this stuff do you?
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