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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


bosley - 10 Nov 2005 10:20 - 12641 of 27111

wow!! 100 million!!! and the sp doesn't move!!! what bollocks!! where do people get these figures from? something is only worth what another party is prepared to pay. i really hope seo get such a high figure, but looking at the market reaction, you have to say the market doesn't think so. could this be the lack of success regarding greenseal conversions affecting seo's credibility?

bhunt1910 - 10 Nov 2005 10:27 - 12642 of 27111

Bos - I just think that there are too many imponderables at the moment.

1. Earliest likelihood of a deal would be Easter - but probably later
2. Still requires 12 months time and money to develope it to see if it works
3. The winning bidder can still walk away if not commercially viable

So absolutely no guarantee of anything at all

However - come next spring we may have a contract - or not - thats when the sp will react - but it will still be another 12 - 18 months after that before we know if we have a winner or not. So good pipeline stuff - but imho - no present day value

harwood27 - 10 Nov 2005 10:51 - 12643 of 27111

also in shares mag"likely to cause a stink in portfolios as share price drops after director sells,due to delays in implementing greenseal"

Biscuit - 10 Nov 2005 11:18 - 12644 of 27111

All rumours Harwood, just rumours. I refer folk back to the RNS of October 12th where even Tony Ruane of ASDA stated that the 200 machines are on course. If those 2 articles are proved to be untrue, my subscription to Shares Mag is seriously in jeapardy.

bhunt1910 - 10 Nov 2005 11:27 - 12645 of 27111

I would wait for the close statement being prepared by EVO before making any hasty decisions.

This company has just got so many patents that it has not even started to look at yet - as well as the products that it is in the process of developing - Cigarrette filters being but one - I wonder what else it has that we just do not know about.

What is really annoying is that Shares creates hype by not putting out the full story - as has already been documented to death on this thread is that the director sold options so that he could actually BUY shares in the company - the net effect being an investment by the director concerned.

Baza

Biscuit - 10 Nov 2005 11:46 - 12646 of 27111

Exactly Baza, If Shares Magazine is just interested in spreading rumours, I can get them for free from many a BB.

bosley - 10 Nov 2005 13:02 - 12647 of 27111

just read the articles in shares mag. when the writer says, "word on the street", surely he is talking about bulletin boards. why on earth would shares mag print warnings about not believing everything you read on bbs, ( as they have in earlier issues), and then peddle rumours themselves?
i do agree with the writer's comment re. the director sell. whichever way you look at it , it stinks. selling half to buy the other half? why not show us all how much he believes in this company and stump up his own money to buy the lot. think of the buzz that would create with trial results due.

Biscuit - 10 Nov 2005 16:42 - 12648 of 27111

Large Buys going in after hours.

bhunt1910 - 10 Nov 2005 16:53 - 12649 of 27111

....and the enquiry from the FSA who would want to know if he knew the results before he purchased

bhunt1910 - 10 Nov 2005 16:54 - 12650 of 27111

Biscuit - I expect it is the director buying his shares back !!!!

predateur - 10 Nov 2005 17:12 - 12651 of 27111


Two points which do not seem to feature in the assessment of SEO and its path to glory.

"Terry Robins has been appointed Chief Operating Officer with a specific remit to assist the group in achieving final commercialisation of its tray-lidding and thermoformingproduct suite. Terry spent over 30 years working for J. Sainsbury plc, latterly as Packaging Innovations Manager"

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"Stanelco plc, the RF applications Group, is delighted to announce the
appointment of Martin Wagner as Commercial Director of Stanelco RF Technologies
Ltd with a remit to assist in the commercialisation of Stanelco's food packaging
technologies including GREENSEAL and Starpol 2000.

Martin was previously Head of Packaging Development at ASDA Stores Limited where he has spent the last 5 years heading up a number of different commercial teams delivering both significant savings to the business and leading ground breaking strategic initiatives, and was directly involved in ASDA's adoption of the
GREENSEAL technology project. Martin brings to Stanelco his experience of
working directly in the food and beverage supply industry as well as the
healthcare and pharmaceutical industries at director level."
**************************************************************

Would these guys have moved from major companies if they did not feel there was a future with SEO ?. I think not.

The other point is Biotec.

This company cost the partners $ 26m dollars. at 1.77 dollars to the pound this equates to a cost 14.7m. I think we may be a little ( or a lot ) carried away with 100m, but at 30m we are "quids in" considering the residue after filter sale.

To the long term holders, keep the faith, to the shorters keep on your toes, they may be trodden on soon.


Predateur

Oilywag - 10 Nov 2005 17:24 - 12652 of 27111

Evening all.

To add to the comments above from predateur the following extract from an e-mail I received from PM1

"After several enquiries about the Shares Mag dodgy reporting on Stanelco today, based on 'rumours', I passed the details to Howard, his reply was, and I quote ....

"It is bullshit that there are any major problems with Greenseal, it is progressing well"

I can only summise that Shares mag got their 'rumours' from the bashers on the MAM and AVDFN BB's.

Cheers,

Paul"

The oily one

blinger - 10 Nov 2005 18:27 - 12653 of 27111

OH ,
I got it wrong AGAIN then, sEo down nearly -5%, and sPo up for the second day by +8%, what a silly billy I am

hewittalan6 - 10 Nov 2005 18:33 - 12654 of 27111

Arse.
For those who measure a stocks performance in single days trading, please post on the traders thread.
Thing is blinger, I invested between 0917 and 0933 when SEO +0.8% and SPO -0.24%. (joke for those with sense of humour removed - just to show what a daft statement that was).
We are a little bit longer term than that on here.
Alan

blinger - 10 Nov 2005 18:39 - 12655 of 27111

Evening Oilyrag & gang dreamers.There are 599 additives in cigarette tobacco incl. the paper and the filter.
Now you may recall (perhaps not) passing a "smoke" around in your youth, by the time the last person inhaled ( or not, if your name is Clinton- quite a card), there was a nasty soggy bit nick-named a ` pigs Aris`.
That is merely one problem moving away from conventional filters will cause, a soggy end is not really what smokers want, and telling them that they will suffer that to sort out one of the 599 artificial enhancements is not want they want either.
Telling the people who KNOW they are killing themselves smoking that the butt end will disssolve in 4 weeks will be a real treat.
As to the value of 100m put on the filter,

er excuse me but,

ROTFFLMFACB&HO

Get real blokes!!!!!!!!Do you really think that people wouldn`t be queueing up to buy the co. never mind the patent?

blinger - 10 Nov 2005 18:42 - 12656 of 27111

hewittalan6

do grow up.

bosley - 10 Nov 2005 18:45 - 12657 of 27111

capstan full strength didn't have filters. now that was a man's smoke.......... cough your lungs up and tongue full of bacca to boot. eeeee, those wert' days.

hewittalan6 - 10 Nov 2005 18:48 - 12658 of 27111

I have done mate.
My stock of choice rose 2.1% today. Thats its 4th day in 5 of rises (the other was level).
That don't make my holding of SEO wrong.
Difference is, I don't go on another thread alltogether and crow about how superior and clever I am, cos I am not, and I have no need to over compenstae for anything.
This is not Utd. versus City.
This is a question of whether SEO is a good INVESTMENT. Whether or not it is a good trade is irrelevant.

blinger - 10 Nov 2005 18:50 - 12659 of 27111

bos

re. SPO,why?
because recently the price keeps going up, thats all that interests me, simple approach, but profitable.
Oh and I did hear a rumour that Ryanair are gambling mad,and will fly you for nowt in the near future-if you punt on board their aircraft.
Whom will supply their on-board betting stuff, goodness knows--LOL!!!!!

bosley - 10 Nov 2005 18:56 - 12660 of 27111

fair enough. ryanair are always trying stuff. they recently tried pay-as-you-view films , but nobody was interested, so they dropped it.
as a smoker who has been booted outside to smoke and now puts all my fag ends in a plant pot i can testify that the current filters do not biodegrade. bio d filters can only be a good thing and will be a minor benefit to the litter problem we see on our streets. smokers will smoke regardless of what filter is on, soggy or not.
100m sounds too good to be true, which usually means it is. as i have said before, considering profits at the moment are nil, anything seo get will benefit the bottom line.
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