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Aerobox (ARX)     

keith thomas - 20 Apr 2004 17:06

will it ever recover to the 38p i paid for them??

willfagg - 18 Oct 2004 09:09 - 141 of 520

shedjock, I find your comments really worrying .If the figures are correct I can not see any market for these. From an ROCE perspective they would be negative and never repay the investment.It poses the question why have Virgin or anyone else bought any?We could do with a response from Aerobex. I would have to suggest that perhaps the price differences are not 100% accurate. If they are, their only market place would be for any special/custom design demands? Thanks for thr post and would be interestd if you hear anything else

sandrew64 - 18 Oct 2004 09:20 - 142 of 520

Does anyone remember when the factory was due to be up and running or if it already is? If it is open what are they doing with it as have not heard of any sales requiring production.If the sales don't justify this outlay we are really going to get hammered on next results. Anyone know when they are? Thanks for your insight shedjock and like you willfagg am worried.

willfagg - 18 Oct 2004 09:31 - 143 of 520

factory was due to open September raisng capability about ten fold

sandrew64 - 18 Oct 2004 10:18 - 144 of 520

Perhaps they're having long lunch breaks.

willfagg - 18 Oct 2004 10:36 - 145 of 520

you think they would have announced it was up and running..............perhaps they have got nothing to make?

cavman2 - 18 Oct 2004 14:50 - 146 of 520

Although there is a price differential between the uld's one has to remember that there is a much superior performance from ARX ULD, if they are spiked by a forklift then unlike aluminium the fabric closes back up as the forklift is withdrawn and can continue in service, if you wish to repair it then one just irons on a patch. Now the ally one cannot be reused and has to be taken out of service for an expensive repair.
The ARX uld has a much longer time in serviceable use as opposed to an ally one and don't forget ARX ones FLATPACK.
Surely the Airlines must be interested in the savings overall as opposed to one off Capex expenditure. What would you do.
Visit ARX website and i am sure you would find out a whole lot more about their ULD's.
If George Robinson likes it then i am going to continue to hold.

willfagg - 19 Oct 2004 16:48 - 147 of 520

i am holding but a product may be smarter than another but if it does not deliver the ROCE required normally 2.5 years or better,then it just does not fly(pardon the pun)
Previous comments re comparative pricing make me concerned that when BA and the others do the sums there is not a compelling financial reason for n
]buying ARX? Could do with more data to assess accurarely.Sitting in Tianjin at the moment reading the threads.Isnt it weird how technology has made everything so accessible and transparent, as absolutely no difference to when i am in little old England.

hokistar - 29 Oct 2004 15:28 - 148 of 520

New Air Cargo Container From ACS Offers Protection Against Temperature Extremes
PR Newswire (US)
28 October 2004
[What follows is the full text of the news story.]

RIO RANCHO, N.M., Oct. 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Aerospace Composite Structures, LLC (ACS), a subsidiary of Aerobox plc (ARX), and Kelvin Technologies, Inc. (KTI), have unveiled the KelvinBox, the first specialized air cargo container designed to protect valuable shipments from extremes of heat and cold for up to seven days.

Products shipped using the KelvinBox will never experience temperature variations of more than +/- 2 degrees C even when outside temperatures range between -30 degrees C and +55 degrees C. The revolutionary container, developed jointly by ACS and KTI, targets the pharmaceutical, food and related industries.

ACS and KTI entered into a strategic partnership earlier this year to develop, produce, and market a refrigerated air cargo container that actively controls product temperature.

The KelvinBox received rave reviews at the recent Pharma IQ 2nd annual Cold Chain Distribution meeting in Philadelphia, according to Charles Edwards, Vice President of ACS.

"Representatives of a number of pharmaceutical companies told us that 'finally a company has listened to us and designed a unit that both cools and heats!'" Edwards said.

Gunnar Ahlberg, creator of the KelvinBox and President and C.E.O. of Kelvin Technologies, added, "The response by pharmaceutical logistics and quality control experts confirms that our new concept more than meets their needs. The KelvinBox will revolutionize the way temperature sensitive products are shipped."

The container will now undergo rigorous tests specified by the Federal Aviation Administration as part of the certification process.

Following FAA approval, the KelvinBox will be produced at the new ACS production facilities in Rio Rancho, N.M.

AeroBox plc is listed on the AIM market of the London Stock Exchange. Aerospace Composite Structures, LLC

CONTACT: Charles Edwards of Aerospace Composite Structures, LLC, +1-505-332-7709, or cedwards@acsusa.net ; or Gunnar Ahlberg of Kelvin Technologies, Inc., +1-972-432-0222, or kti-01@kelvintechnologies.com

aldwickk - 29 Oct 2004 16:20 - 149 of 520

And now the price is 14p.

keith thomas - 29 Oct 2004 19:10 - 150 of 520

should this be good news for Aerobox share price?/
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willfagg - 29 Oct 2004 20:38 - 151 of 520

Could be but usual story .Is there a large enough demand for this nich/custom built box?People believe when the orders are landed with godd revenue and profit. I think peppthe feeling is that the orders are taking a long time so no need to go in yaet plus its not a done neal it will be a success. IMO

willfagg - 29 Oct 2004 20:39 - 152 of 520

However launched at 50p now 14p ......its not expensive is it?

bonfield - 03 Nov 2004 14:18 - 153 of 520

that depends on whether it was overpriced at 50p I guess. Does anyone have up to date figures on what the directors own and whether they have bought or sold any recently? ta. I'm looking at a possible purchase......

willfagg - 03 Nov 2004 14:35 - 154 of 520

Do not think there has been any director sales or transactions recently.Getting cheaper all the time.Is it worth a punt?Not sure whether to top up on YOO/FTO or go for SC./TYM/ZIM(is there someting about to happen here why mark up price with only miniscule trading?)I think all interesting cases but only so much money to go around and cant sell PET/asc/SPS/to create funds

keith thomas - 18 Nov 2004 19:53 - 155 of 520

I see that Fidelity have taken a position in the stock, along with other institutions. Any thought on this anybody??

cavman2 - 19 Nov 2004 10:40 - 156 of 520

Yea bloody good is'nt it, I sleep better at night.

keith thomas - 19 Nov 2004 19:44 - 157 of 520

keith thomas - 22 Nov 2004 17:54 - 158 of 520

keith thomas - 23 Nov 2004 20:19 - 159 of 520

proptrade - 24 Nov 2004 10:45 - 160 of 520

Keith, any posts to add!
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