cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 31 Mar 2008 17:45
- 1621 of 21973
the two do not necessarily move entirely in step and it seemed a good idea at the time ...... however, shall prob shut off 50% of my FTSE position before i leave the office ..... another modest profit, but thank you very much! ..... Dow i shall prob stay with during the evening .... if it finishes strong, then may open up new FTSE position when Dow closes, on the basis that the indicated rise for London tomorrow will be understated ..... doesn't always work out that way, as F/E can ambush everything and/or bad news after hours in USA
ptholden
- 31 Mar 2008 17:56
- 1622 of 21973
Considering a short if it gets to 12300, only considering though;)
bhunt1910
- 31 Mar 2008 17:56
- 1623 of 21973
Thanks for that - no criticism implied -just trying to understand why you had both. I am not confident enough yet to do more than play with the dow as it does seem extremely volatile - and I am not always nimble enough to react to its changes of direction.
cynic
- 31 Mar 2008 18:02
- 1624 of 21973
you also need to be monitoring constantly ikf you are not to frighten yourself ..... or have limits and stops, though it can be very tiresome to find one shut out preamturely in either direction
btw, sold 50% of FTSE .... diddy profit (98 clear), but still cash in the bank
cynic
- 31 Mar 2008 18:05
- 1625 of 21973
Peter - any logic to your shorting at 12300 (it got there!) or is it just gut feeling? .... i just get the feeling that tonight could be strong, for no other reason than there was no bad news earlier and Dow has come back quite a way in the last few sessions
bhunt1910
- 31 Mar 2008 18:07
- 1626 of 21973
cash in the bank is always good. Better than having paper profits and then losing the lot - as I have done several times !!
I think this rally might still have some legs on it so am still in - but I have brought my stoploss closer so that I dont loose all my profit on a sudden change of direction.
ptholden
- 31 Mar 2008 18:11
- 1627 of 21973
Richard, I posted earlier that I thought the DOW would have an up day, however I am trading much shorter time frames off 3 and 5 min charts. My longer term charts have resistance at 12310 and 12320, hence looking for a short trade. Must admit though looking quite strong right now and if I was long I wouldn't be in a rush to close.
bhunt1910
- 31 Mar 2008 18:24
- 1628 of 21973
12310 broken -look like 12320 could also be broken
Toya
- 31 Mar 2008 18:25
- 1629 of 21973
I think the DOW could possibly recover to as far as 12346-12388 (for what it's worth). Will try to take small profits as it goes up, just in case it falls back on me!
Toya
- 31 Mar 2008 18:26
- 1630 of 21973
As soon as I posted the above, it turned - typical!
bhunt1910
- 31 Mar 2008 18:28
- 1631 of 21973
I have closed my Ftse long - I will let the voices of experience guide me - thanks
bhunt1910
- 31 Mar 2008 18:31
- 1632 of 21973
toya -likewise - as soon as I closed it, it went up.
Still managed to bank 75 on that last foray into the market - not a lot by your guys standards - but enough for me
ptholden
- 31 Mar 2008 18:34
- 1633 of 21973
Still looking quite strong to me, although 20 held......just
Toya
- 31 Mar 2008 18:34
- 1634 of 21973
bhunt: I tend to trade in and out in small steps - find it scares me a lot less than hanging in there for a long time. And it's surprising how several little profits of just 25 (sometimes less) or so add up in a day.
Toya
- 31 Mar 2008 18:43
- 1635 of 21973
Looks like we hit a high at 12329!
ptholden
- 31 Mar 2008 18:45
- 1636 of 21973
??
ptholden
- 31 Mar 2008 18:48
- 1637 of 21973
Having just shed 30 pts in ten minutes I feel the DOW needs to stage a smart turnaround if today's gains are not to be wiped out, possibly an over-statement :))
cynic
- 31 Mar 2008 18:55
- 1638 of 21973
it's a pretty difficult call i agree .... have already set a stop on my Dow so shall at least get shut out at a profit if it gets hit
bhunt1910
- 31 Mar 2008 18:56
- 1639 of 21973
Question for you - I trade with barclays - and they charge me 12.50 per trade - hence why I am trying not to do lots of little trades. having said that - I have traded 12 times today - so cost me 150. Is that expensive - or are there cheaper options ?
ptholden
- 31 Mar 2008 18:58
- 1640 of 21973
Well, I've stopped looking for short positions and have drawn an up channel for this afternoon's activity, sitting right at the bottom as I type so plenty of room for more upside...............if it goes up :S