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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Stan - 12 May 2016 10:05 - 1761 of 12628

Pot & kettle yet again from the idiots.

jimmy b - 12 May 2016 10:07 - 1762 of 12628

Your right GEORGE but then Cameron has not played fair so far ,he is a scheming little posh twat .

jimmy b - 12 May 2016 10:12 - 1763 of 12628

Ian Botham


Dear Friend,
Did you see the official funding figures? I’m speechless. The pro-EU Remain campaign has raised over £6.8 million, to our £2.7 million. That means they’ve got more than twice as much money to spend on their propaganda.
Worse still they’re being funded by big American investment banks like Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley.
Remind me why it’s any of Goldman Sachs’ business how Britain votes in the referendum?!
With 42 days to go until the vote, it’s time we got to work. We can win this - despite all the money the other side has spent the polls are neck-and-neck. British voters just aren’t buying their argument that the only option is to stay in a failing EU.
Boris Johnson, Gisela Stuart and Michael Gove are out there now campaigning on your behalf. So are thousands of volunteers up and down the UK. And today I’m signing up to help too.
We need to get our messages out: that every week we send £350m a week to the EU for a deal that’s not working. That the addition of Turkey, Serbia, Macedonia, Albania, and Montenegro will only increase the burden on vital public services which we all depend upon.

As a sportsman I knew when I was beaten, and when I could win. We can win this. We will win this if every one of us who loves this country stands up now and supports the campaign.

VICTIM - 12 May 2016 10:14 - 1764 of 12628

Maybe more will come out too and declare their feelings , this is good .

Fred1new - 12 May 2016 10:21 - 1765 of 12628

Well Dumbo, Vicky and 216 can always help to balance Brexit's books by donating half a million each to their cause.

Stan - 12 May 2016 10:22 - 1766 of 12628

Who next.. Jimmy Cricket

2517GEORGE - 12 May 2016 10:25 - 1767 of 12628

Are you ashamed of the Union Jack, Stan.
2517

jimmy b - 12 May 2016 10:27 - 1768 of 12628

Of course they are, remember they both HATE Britain and anything we stand for.

Fred1new - 12 May 2016 11:31 - 1769 of 12628

Dumbo,

You seem to have sufficient hate to go around for all.

The way you repeat yourself the more it seems like your second name.

-===

215, as far being ashamed of the Union jack is concerned, the answer is no.
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But I abhor many things which are said to have been done or are being done or are proposed in its name and also by many of the loudmouths and dishonest hypocrites who "think" they represent it.

It seems to me, many who suggest they stand for it, are doing so out immediate self-interest with little regards to the interests of others.

VICTIM - 12 May 2016 11:37 - 1770 of 12628

Also Freda that stands for every Nations people on the Planet not just Britain . That's the I abhor bit your talking about .

jimmy b - 12 May 2016 11:44 - 1771 of 12628

He hates the queen as well.

VICTIM - 12 May 2016 11:47 - 1772 of 12628

I thought he'd been Knighted jimmy , very sad .

Haystack - 12 May 2016 12:00 - 1773 of 12628

It was a misprint. Someone said "get knotted" and not "knighted".

Fred1new - 12 May 2016 12:04 - 1774 of 12628

Haze,

If applied to you it would probably be "garroted".

2517GEORGE - 12 May 2016 12:14 - 1775 of 12628

Thank you for your reply Fred (post 1769), I don't disagree with some of your comment.
2517

grannyboy - 12 May 2016 12:41 - 1776 of 12628

WHY should it be just Tory against Tory?? There is others who have
a right to be involved in ANY debate, and if anyone thinks that BoJo
is the best to lead the Leave side is obviously from the remain side.

ANY debate should involve Nigel Farage, who has been campaigning
against the EU for 20 years, and if it wern't for UKIP there wouldn't be
a referendum.

Haystack - 12 May 2016 13:14 - 1777 of 12628

I am voting out, but I am embarrassed to be on the same side as the grotesque Farage. This referendum makes strange bedfellows.

iturama - 12 May 2016 13:32 - 1778 of 12628

I doubt Nigel would want to go to bed with you Hays.. he's not the type. If you would like the names of a few MPs that would be interested, perhaps, let me know.

Fred1new - 12 May 2016 13:40 - 1779 of 12628

How well do you know the few MPs?

Fred1new - 12 May 2016 13:59 - 1780 of 12628

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36273448

The Bank of England has given its starkest warning yet that a UK vote to leave the EU in the June referendum could lead to higher unemployment and lower growth.

Its latest Inflation Report forecasts inflation will reach 0.9% in September, as long as the UK stays in the EU.


The report expected that after slowing in the second quarter of the year, growth will pick up in the second half.

It came as the Bank voted unanimously to keep interest rates at 0.5%.

The Bank said that a vote to leave "could lead to a materially lower path for growth and a notably higher path for inflation than in... the report".

The latest minutes of its interest rate-setting Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) added that a vote to leave the EU could cause sterling to fall "perhaps sharply" and unemployment to rise.

The MPC said: "Households could defer consumption and firms delay investment lowering labour demand and causing unemployment to rise."

It added that interest rate policy would depend "on the relative magnitudes of the demand, supply and exchange rate effects".

It said that a lower exchange rate might boost trade, but would be "unlikely to offset the drag on activity from increased uncertainty and and tighter financial conditions".
However, it noted that the MPC would face the difficult choice of raising rates to control inflation or lowering them to stimulate the economy.

Analysis: Kamal Ahmed, economics editor

In the Bank of England's assessment of the health of the UK economy, one ringing sentence jumps out: "The most significant risks to the [economic] forecast concern the referendum," the Monetary Policy Committee says.

It goes on to reveal that far from this simply being a judgement on what Bank officials describe as the "uncertainty spike" around the fact the referendum is taking place at all - this is a judgement that Brexit would have a material effect on the economy.

In a Bank world of carefully chosen words, "material" means significant. And significantly downwards.

Read more from Kamal here.
Chancellor George Osborne said the UK now had a "clear and unequivocal warning" from the MPC as well as the Governor of the Bank of England about the risks of a Leave vote.
"The Bank is saying that it would face a trade-off between stabilising inflation on one hand and stabilising output and employment on the other," he said.
"So either families would face lower incomes because inflation would be higher, or the economy would be weaker with a hit to jobs and livelihoods. This is a lose-lose situation for Britain. Either way, we'd be poorer."
Fading
The Bank's Inflation Report said that uncertainty over the EU referendum was already weighing on economic activity: "There is evidence that a material proportion of the 9% fall in sterling exchange rate since its peak in November could reflect referendum effects.
"It is hard to judge how much of the slowdown reflects a loss of underlying momentum and so may persist and how much is likely to unwind if uncertainty recedes following the referendum.
"Referendum effects will also make it harder to interpret economic indicators over the next few months."
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