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LIBYA - updating news     

cynic - 02 Mar 2011 11:48

starting this thread, which i hope will be short-lived, to keep the board up to date with latest reports gleaned from the net

Fred1new - 23 Mar 2011 08:38 - 161 of 685

"contingency fund"


I wish I had such, if it is magically filled by waving a wand,

I think it is an illusion or in case of some a delusional.

Hear I am going to be 45 a year better off.

How much worse off am I going to feel.

cynic - 23 Mar 2011 08:46 - 162 of 685

so you still sit on the fence ... great position provided the pickets aren't sharpened

i am not remotely uncomfortable with my own views ..... it may not be apparent (to you), but i thought pretty carefully about what i considered to be the right action in this theatre, and have not changed it

however, also as already clearly posted, i would be very uncomfortable indeed if land forces were deployed for this would not only be in complete contravention to UN 1973, but much more importantly, against the wishes of both AL and even the libyan rebels themselves

as for resolution, i would hope that MG is disposed of very quickly by one means or another - the preferred route would be that he is removed willingly or not, and exiled to venezuela or whatever other country might take him and his family

i don't think a (show) trial as happened to SH is in the best interests of anyone, and merely prolongs the problem

mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 09:01 - 163 of 685

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cynic - 23 Mar 2011 09:12 - 164 of 685

again, i chose "theatre" intentionally, for all sorts of good and fun reasons!

your last para is true, but nevertheless a situation can only (has to be) be dealt with according to the facts and situation at the time ...... even in everyday life and buisness it is impossible to see exactly where a certain course will end up, so "best judgement" must be applied .... passively doing nothing is not or not should not be an option

mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 09:29 - 165 of 685

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cynic - 23 Mar 2011 09:41 - 166 of 685

no that is not what i said at all ...... i said "passively doing nothing" which is far from the same thing ...... careful consideration etc may lead one to the conclusion that no action should be taken - that is "actively doing nothing" .....

in this instance, my view is that such a stance is not and would not be in the best interests of the world at large ..... of course oil is an important factor, but that is not just greed and i assume it does not need to be spelt out ..... burnt-out tobacco farms do not, i am afraid, have the same effect on world economics (and politics)

mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 09:55 - 167 of 685

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cynic - 23 Mar 2011 10:04 - 168 of 685

may well respond at greater length later, but actually have a living to earn too (lol!) ..... the short and unsatisfactory answer is "yes" and "i don't agree with you"

mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 10:12 - 169 of 685

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cynic - 23 Mar 2011 10:25 - 170 of 685

yes and intelligent discussion suddenly too!

mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 10:34 - 171 of 685

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ahoj - 23 Mar 2011 11:02 - 172 of 685

Gaddafi should leave the office and ask his ministry of internal affair to run the governement etc...

But, they do not like to talk to each other, the only way for them is fighting as the killing adds to the problem.

ptholden - 23 Mar 2011 19:59 - 173 of 685

M

As with most idealists, you deplore action, but simultaneously cannot offer an alternative.

I suppose your self-satisfying stance may in your view be the preferred option, but I doubt the Libyan rebels would thank you.

mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 20:49 - 174 of 685

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cynic - 23 Mar 2011 21:00 - 175 of 685

hmm! .... an unconvincing post MN, except for a dedicated fence-sitter

mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 21:09 - 176 of 685

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ptholden - 23 Mar 2011 21:10 - 177 of 685

M

Apologies if I have categorised your pigeon hole incorrectly, I can only conclude from what I read and then understand (clearly not a lot).

As to the military establishment not being very good at thinking, you'd probably be surprised at the reality. In any event the military do not decide to take action, that decision is taken for them.

mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 21:23 - 178 of 685

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mnamreh - 23 Mar 2011 21:24 - 179 of 685

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Fred1new - 23 Mar 2011 21:26 - 180 of 685

I liked the underlining.

Reminded me of a petticoat.

8-)
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