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Alternate Vote (AV) - for or against?     

cynic - 25 Apr 2011 07:53

this important referendum is nearly upon us and i thought it would be interesting explore the views held by this BB

after much thought, i have decided to vote against AV
i do not dispute that "first past post the post" is in some ways unfair - so is life and golf! - but i am far from convinced that AV is intrinsically much better

i would rather have a stronger gov't of some hue than a weak coalition or mps (and parties) who have felt obliged to trim their sails to offend the least number and thus gain a few more secondary votes

full-blown PR is at least "fair", but even then, there are many examples of horribly weak and unstable gov'ts, which is also pretty disastrous

finally, and of greatest concern, i suspect the turnout for this referendum will be +/-35% at best and probably a lot lower in many parts of the country
it follows that those who vote in this will be (relative) "activists" for lack of a better word, for the run-of-the-mill voter will find the whole thing too complicated and voting on it all, too much of a fag
thus, if there is a change in our voting system, then it is very likely to have been pushed through by <20% of the electorate - is that fair?

kernow - 08 May 2011 14:36 - 161 of 178

Fred - I don't share your politics but I do enjoy your posts. Please ignore those who can't take a pluralistic view.

Fred1new - 08 May 2011 19:03 - 162 of 178

Kernow,

Thank you.


It takes courage to question one's own "beliefs" and realising the long term consequences of one's actions.

Some are too frightened to do so.

But my next important question to answer for myself, is whether I cook the mussels before or after the squid.


It is nice now to be only to be responsible for personal decisions actions and consequences.


cynic - 08 May 2011 20:24 - 163 of 178

fred - does one therefore assume that wife and offspring have fled the nest?

Fred1new - 08 May 2011 21:16 - 164 of 178

The wife hasn't, but my four daughters have, but all enjoy my cooking.

(Generally.)


Fred1new - 08 May 2011 21:20 - 165 of 178

Ps.

Be careful, when you are in France as I will be arriving there towards the end of this week and I have a new recipe for Octopus.

The other part of my my mission "impossible" is to teach the French to understand my dialect.

gibby - 08 May 2011 21:35 - 166 of 178

not fred the shred by any chance!

joking aside - not too keen on mussels - squid yes pls - like fried, calameres espana or maybe portuegese or even squid in its own milk aka calameres en su tinta - very versatile - enjoy however you prepare / cook


Bernard M - 09 May 2011 07:04 - 167 of 178

Can't stand this slimey cnut.

cynic - 09 May 2011 08:24 - 168 of 178

tinta = ink!

bernard - your comment smacks of anti-semiticism!

TANKER - 09 May 2011 08:28 - 169 of 178

BM i agree . arsewipe is better

Fred1new - 09 May 2011 08:55 - 170 of 178

Tanker,

Was Ed looking at you when the photograph was taken.

I see Cameron and his henchmen are taking another quick open reverse on the NHS and Politically appointed Police "chiefs".

He must have read to many American comics in Eton. Not the only mess they are famous for.

Fred1new - 09 May 2011 08:58 - 171 of 178

I am sorry I am confusing new proposals with a review of policies.

It wasn't me gov., it was the previous Gov's policy.

HO HO HO.



TANKER - 09 May 2011 11:12 - 172 of 178

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TANKER - 09 May 2011 11:20 - 173 of 178

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mnamreh - 09 May 2011 12:04 - 174 of 178

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TANKER - 09 May 2011 12:11 - 175 of 178

mna. so you agree he was just that a human not a profit .
just imagine putting [ paul daniels ] back in those times .
he would of been a god immortal

Fred1new - 09 May 2011 12:18 - 176 of 178

Although not knowing what went before, it would also seem a miracle.


cynic - 09 May 2011 12:24 - 177 of 178

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mnamreh - 09 May 2011 12:28 - 178 of 178

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