cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 13 Jul 2015 08:52
- 18181 of 21973
if current market levels hold, then DOW could easily be heading for 18,000 and FTSE for late june high of 6875 (from memory)
jimmy b
- 13 Jul 2015 08:55
- 18182 of 21973
Sounds like Greece have done some kind of deal ,although whether it's one that will please markets we will see .
Now we have China to stick a spanner in the works .
cynic
- 13 Jul 2015 09:04
- 18183 of 21973
as i keep on saying, there's a lot more to this than meets the eye .....
for example, it is almost guaranteed that lot of existing debt will be rescheduled at minuscule interest rate and to 50 years hence (rumour has it that this was already in place but could not be admitted) and that IMF/ECB will fund some major infrastructure developments, partially paid for by the large scale privatisations
deltazero
- 13 Jul 2015 09:12
- 18184 of 21973
could be cynic ref 18000 & ftse.................
jimmy - looks like the greeks have no option - then pass it through their gov with a few key personnel changes............... interesting day / week ahead
china - lol yes but this would help them too if correct ref greeks.............
deltazero
- 13 Jul 2015 09:14
- 18185 of 21973
yep murky indeed cynic - not forgetting the red bear russia.......................
deltazero
- 13 Jul 2015 12:13
- 18186 of 21973
flat p1ss by comparison today...............
deltazero
- 13 Jul 2015 12:27
- 18187 of 21973
Here is a quick summary of the key points in the statement from the European Union:
Greece will need between €82-€86bn in bailout funds.
It will get those funds when the Greek parliament has passed reforms and the EU wants that done by Wednesday 15 July.
The final deal will need to be ratified by national parliaments - that could be done by the end of the week.
The reforms are substantial affecting VAT, pensions and requiring an independent office of statistics.
A €50bn asset fund will be formed to be run by Greeks but supervised by Europe. Half of that will be used to recapitalise banks, which will then be privatised.
The ESM [European Stability Mechanism] is prepared to provide an immediate €10bn to recapitalise banks.
A 'haircut' or reduction of Greeks debts will not be offered. But the debts might be restructured to make repayment easier, but only after Greece has introduced all of its promised reforms.
cynic
- 13 Jul 2015 14:43
- 18188 of 21973
i'm currently long DOW from 17,875 (now 17,935) so watching to see if 18,000 can be hit ...... shall almost certainly bank the profit just shy of that level
am also long FTSE from 6725, but that has currently stalled, but shall leave to run
deltazero
- 13 Jul 2015 15:07
- 18189 of 21973
good luck cynic - i have just cashed in profit dow - the greek news wasnt as mind blowing as expected, other global events may well take precedence
long still looks a good call but wont take much to tip it into a bit of reverse imo..........if it goes further north dont mind good for others
gl
deltazero
- 13 Jul 2015 16:13
- 18190 of 21973
ha ha...............imf suckers :-)
china, india, brazil and others will be chuffed to bits to see more money going to the eu zone than anywhere else in the world..................
It's official, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), is "ready" to work with Greece, it has announced in an official statement. "The IMF stands ready to work with the Greek authorities and the European partners to help move this important effort forward."
A third bailout deal for Greece is predicated on the country asking for further help from the IMF.
cynic
- 13 Jul 2015 20:02
- 18191 of 21973
banked modest DOW profit, but i see that index has now climbed again .... never mind
cynic
- 13 Jul 2015 20:41
- 18192 of 21973
DOW
just taken a brave short at 19,796 as it shows no inclination to surge higher and a resistance at 18,000 def in prospect
deltazero
- 13 Jul 2015 21:46
- 18193 of 21973
that is brave cynic - i hope it comes good for you - i am keeping my powder dry for the moment - gl
Claret Dragon
- 14 Jul 2015 06:19
- 18194 of 21973
A bit of profit taking today after yesterdays bounce?
cynic
- 14 Jul 2015 08:12
- 18195 of 21973
took my tweensy FTSE profit, but better than nowt
DOW short still running
i'm expecting some nervousness ahead of the vote in the greek parliament and 18,000 is likely to be a hurdle anyway
Claret Dragon
- 14 Jul 2015 10:56
- 18196 of 21973
FTSE 100 just fell over
cynic
- 14 Jul 2015 16:07
- 18197 of 21973
bugger ..... have cut my losses on DOW, though they were nothing remotely to cry about
short call looked to be right until about the last 30 minutes .... hey ho :-)
anyway, more than made up stock longs
deltazero
- 14 Jul 2015 16:15
- 18198 of 21973
unlucky cynic that was a hard and brave call you made there - i couldnt make up my mind hence keeping powder dry - as i said before long looks the better position currently
and remember this: 'a man who made no mistakes made nothing' so no shame in a wrong / unlucky call
gl
cynic
- 14 Jul 2015 16:52
- 18199 of 21973
at least i wasn't punting silly money and it's all too easy to let losses run away too ..... have actually had a very good (fiscal) year so far, so long may it continue
anyway, it could now be argued that with DOW piercing 18,000 with relative ease, and FTSE finishing above 6740, that a further run north could easily be in prospect, always supposing the greasy ones do not spoil the party
Claret Dragon
- 14 Jul 2015 17:25
- 18200 of 21973
DOW Short 18040