If they win tonight will this drive price up ????? - I like football but this is the only football share that interests me.Any thoughts!!!

losing tonight will leave a 20 million pound hole in the finances .thats its financial worth. on its true level losing would be a huge embarrassment to united and fergie , especially if arsenal and chelsea progress.

I think the club has lost its air of magic and is at the start of a very slow
decline.Everyone now realises they are beatable so this alone will contribute
to its downfall.
rgds aj

i bet you lot have never been to old trafford. we will win tonight no doubts about it

RED FAN (MERSEYSIDE),WHATEVER THE RESULT TONIGHT 5% ORE 10% EITHER SIDE OF TONIGHT CLOSE,,,,,BUT ANYONE WHO GETS INVOLVED WITH FOOTBALL SHARES IS TAKING A CHANCE, IF THERE IS A TAKEOVER THE ONLY WAY ANY ONE WOULD MAKE ANY MONEY IS TO UPROOT THE CLUB AND MOVE IT EITHER TO THE FAR EAST OR ACROSS THE POND, CANT BE DONE??????????. WHY WOULD ANYONE PAY UP TO 800 MILLION FOR A POSSIBLE RETURN OF 20 TO 30 MILLION A YEAR, REGARDS DD.

It seems that considered opinion is that the only people who should buy football shares are the supporters of the club in question. Rationale being that you have to be a true supporter to accept the losses that will inevitably follow any purchase.

Regards

PTH

markquest2003

I have (3 times), and another poor display for your team!

Down today I think, huge loss of revenue o bow out at this stage, and no realistic chance of the league either.

questy .. we were unlucky in one sense..but on the face of it suppose we are out of sorts at the moment..we were never going to win the damn competition this year anyway....not with the current squad ..too many bit-time players brought for my liking ... in a way i know there are the financial consequence of the early exit..now that i have got over it.. i think it is probably just the sort of result the club needs to get it's act in order ..

to stop thinking of itself as a business and start concentrating on the football pitch .. i mean spending some of its profits on getting real world class players who would b worthy of being watched by loyal 67k fans week in week out .. why arent't players like zidane .. ronaldinho( not bought due to unwillingness to pay etra million or so) .. henry .. inzagi ..stankovic etc not being considered as targets .. i use these names as examples .. i know some may b too old now (zidane although still the best) others out of reach (Henry) but for goodness sake this is supposed to be the wealthist club in the world..

look at real madrid ..in lot of debt ..what do they do ..cost cutting ..heck no ..they go and buy Beckham( remember him) ..who in turn has repaid his transfer twice over already with the shirt sales..

questy like i said the other day ..our best hope is FA Cup ..but after the draw not so sure now.. being realistic ..time for all at the club to ponder and reflect and get the club in order and start investing in proper players ..instead of ( with respect) the likes of forlan ..djemba ..kleberson etc..

I respect fergie for waht he has done.. i vll respect him even more ..if he has a bIt of wholesale during the summer and get rid of ..like keane said .. the one's who have taken it for granted to wear the RED shirt ..

football is a cruel game ..fans pay hard earned cash to fill the pockets of footballers ..so lets start looking at the squad and critical ask whether the likes of Neville brothers ..wes brown ... nicky butt .. john o'shea ..plus the few named earlier are sort of players who will enable us to win the Holy Grail ..ans is they have been great servants ..but the time has come for them to move on ..

So the first target would be ... Patrick Viera ..said he would consider joining Real Mad or Man Utd .. so it's up to UTD in the summer to make an offer that arsenal and viera cannot refuse.. chealse have shown how is done if the want and money is there ...so lets do it..

PS GOOD LUCK to arsenal ..chelsea in the champions league the competition is there for the taking.. Juve ..Man UTD already out ..Real vll sruggle tomorrow w/o Carlos ..Ronaldo and Raul..


anyway questy ..look on the bright side..u still have CHR !!

I live in Spain and see Real Madrid all the time on t.v.The standard is so
high- Ronaldo in my opinion is such a genius that I think he is the best player
ever to the extent Pele was useless - that Watching M.U.is like watching a
kickaround by amateurs in the local park.M.U.will never be a player on the
world stage unless it can get:-Ronaldo,Zidane,Roberto Carlos - an exceptionally
gifted but much underrated player.The general opinion is that Raul
is outstanding.However,I think he is greatly overrated.Incidentally,Beckams
form is ALWAYS outstanding and a huge asset as a player to Real.
rgds aj

sorry arjen .. no disrespect but it shows how little u know of football ..when u make a statement like i quote ''Ronaldo in my opinion is such a genius that I think he is the best player ever to the extent Pele was useless'

when was the last time you watched a kickaround in the lacal park .. i take it that's the local park in Spain .. boy they have must some talent in the Parks round your way (lol)

looks like a SUPER LEAGUE is beckoning !!!

When was the last time you saw Ronaldo ? lol
rgds aj

ajren likes to cause problems whereever and watever he posts, noted he was
causing some grief on another share post, just ignore his comments obviously nothing better to do with his life, ajren why dont u do some research before posting these daft comments, like the previous poster said "Ronaldo in my opinion is such a genius that I think he is the player ever to the extent Pele was useless"........... what a joke you are by making that statement. You know nothing about football.....

I can't understand why Fergie didn't play Kleberson. He is a Brazilian international and he leaves him on the bench.

>> kantona << There is no way the gunners will sell Viera to Man Utd so dream on!

Cause grief on other posts.You should have said --- gives opinions that no one
wants to hear.I suggest posters read my posts last week on Planestation about
management,price,etc.Since then Oliver Inny has been fired and the price is LESS than BEFORE the Mezzanine debt was paid off e.g.I - stupidly bought at 5.63 p.I have posted virtually every day for months.I request YOU/ANYONE to find even ONE SHARE I was more than VERY slightly wrong - apart from Corus
and even then I made 8,500.

How many times have you seen Ronaldo play ??????????????? Perhaps,you,like I, live in Spain.

gallick :- I agree about Kleberson.

Fergie should have bowed out a couple of years ago, the man's ego has become bigger than the football club. Selling Beckham was a serious error of misjudgement. Fergie, like Iny at PlaneStation, one man maketh not a mountain. ajren, I haven't noticed your posts on the PlaneStation threads recently -"every day for months"? If you bought PTG at 5.63p, and the takeover offer at the very least is 10p, then you made a good buy. What's the problem?

I posted nearly ALL last week on Planestation and nearly everything I said
was correct e.g.the management were TERRIBLE-SINCE then Oliver Inny has been
sacked.

Some confusion - perhaps I worded it incorrectly.I intended the post to read
:-I have posted on numerous treads for months.The problem,as I see it-is that
posters do not like their shares been criticised and thus make PSONAL attacks
on me/my judgement.I - again - ask ALL posters to find ONE share I have been
wrong about e.g.I virtually had to leave the IDD and CMS threads.The bottom line
is that if ALL posters had dealth as my posts they would have made a substantial
amount of money.I will probably get another load of PERSONAL abuse for this
statement.However,before anyone writes I request they READ my posts since I
came on the site.I will apologize if ANYONE finds more than ONE share I was
more than slightly wrong about - apart from Corus and even then I made 8.500 euros.
rgds aj

Ajren do you work in the financial industry? You do make some relevant and informed comments but it is the grammer and the aggressive nature of your posts that winds people up, it should read as informative posts not personal information.

Regards
AdieH.

Hi AdieH,

BEFORE you criticise MY English :- grammAr is correct - not YOUR GrammEr.

Do you think --- winds people up is good English ?
Do you think --- IT should read as informative posts is good English.

My posts are usually written VERY quickly so I have NO regard for my English.

Does moneyam have a rule that they should be informative posts but NOT personal
information ?I suggest you read my IDD posts.My posts have only ONE aim i.e.
to help posters make MONEY and hopefully posters help me make MONEY.In this
regard NUMEROUS posters help ME make money e.g.my under .38p shares.I am not
here to receive Mr Personality of the year.Aggressive nature of my posts ?
Many of them are.So what?Have I EVER criticised a person personally:BEFORE I
was personalised criticised ?
Many of the posts on these treads were/are nonsensical e.g.forecasting
RIDICULOUS price targets.I have a Type A - hard driving - personality so it is
very difficult for me to consider them in any way other than what they are -RUBBISH.

Do I work in the financial industry ? How does one define the financial
industry ?

I repeat my above post- Especially :Ask ALL posters to find more than ONE share
I have been more than slightly wrong about.............etc

Rgds aj

AdieH .. I have noted ur comments and take them on board..

Gallick .. i take it u r a Gunner .. about two months ago someone asked me who would i prefer to win championship , if it is not going to be Utd ..Options were Chelsea or Arsenal .. my reply was arsenal ..b'cause i said as soon as Chelsea win their first title they too would then arrive on the stage and quite possibly take over as the team to beat in UK .. long term i see them more of threat to Utd then Arsenal .. reasons being arsenal r going top guns at the moment and have the best team .. but they will have to be a bit tight fisted here on in order to build the new stadium etc..

Reluctantly i admire what Wenger has done there ..i think this could b the season for Arsenal to go all the way in Europe ... i believe under current form they can beat anyone at the moment.. the test is if they can keep their composure this season ..

Re Viera ... i see ur point of view .. but it is time now for UTD to be audacious .. like Madrid were in signing the likes of Zidane , Beckham, Figo ( from Barca) .. then it is time for UTD to start doing the same and get some respect back ... this is the only way we'll b a force to be reckoned with in Europe.. I also believe Madrid will make a strong bid for Henry in Summer .. although out of Viera and Him .. Henry seems to be the more loyal of the two..

but then again there is no such thing as loyalty in Football, apart from the fans

arjen,

Thanks for your response, I was just trying to point out why people are so negative towards you. If you were less aggressive in your postings you may find people more receptive to your comments.

Anyway I am also an arsenal fan, since the days of Brian Talbot, Pat Rice etc etc so it is good to see us playing some rather attractive football, we aint won anything yet but we have the chance of winning three trophies, lets keep the fingers crossed.