Guys...all you Racing Fans out there, just wondered what your views are on comparing the 2 racing channels. I have now been subscribing to both for a while.

My views are that whereas RUK may show the major meetings , I feel that ATR which is a freebie, shows about 2 or 3 times as much racing action from England and Ireland, compared with the 20 per month we have to pay for Racing UK.

I would seriously question the value in paying 20 per month to RUK and spending half my viewing hours watching reruns of reruns of reruns.

Maybe we should run a campaign to boycott RUK as placing shedloads of bets with companies doing a special freebie with RUK is not economical sense.

Havent seen RUK but like ATR. Also use ATR online as well as racingpost.

If you dont like the coverage which RUK provide then cancel your sub and save yourself 20 per month.

Hi Accord


whether I like RUK was not the issue I raised...I was asking for comparisons between the 2.
The presentation of RUK is good, however the viewer of RUK for 20 per mth gets 40% of the meetings shown by ATR for zilch.
Just one lone campaigner will never get a channel to change its ways but if shedloads trake a stance then you have chances.

Piston

There was a lot of aggro when the two rival channels were set up, personally i feel that commercially it is highly unlikely that both will survive in the long term. i would expect inside 12 months one or the other will go to the wall, most likely to be ATR.

I personally have not subscribed to R UK and have no intention to do so. I tend to trade the horses on betfair rather than gambling these days the majority of time hence am not too fussed what racing is on as long as there is some.

that said, looking forward to the Cheltenham festival next week

fundamentalist...ta for response... like yourself I trade on Betfair, although we do need racing on the box to do so.
Whats yer views on laying/betting in running on Betfair. I would be very interested as I am finding it much harder to 'reduce my risk' now compared with 2 years ago. I am sure it is because the track bookies are seing everything about 3 seconds before we do. Many a time I watch the box and see a 1/2 shot trading at say 100/1 and it hasnt even fallen at that stage...and then bingo it falls whilst in front about a second later...I reckon there must be a fortune to be made by 2 or 3 of you having a wireless laptop on course and creaming everything before the punters at home ( us) know whats happening.
Personally I am a doggy man myself but in running betting/laying even riskier on those. I own a few myself.

Anyway shame your namesake FUNDAMENTALIST is not at Cheltenham this year. I really thought he was destined for stardom but even when he won his Novice at Perth he didnt impress me.
Be lucky

PB

Piston

if you trade betfair there is a very good thread in the traders room if you have access

i try not to play in running, only use it on the longer chases or to hedge any positions i dont manage to close prior to the race. the feed is at least 3 seconds ahead which means you are at a disadvantage to some if not all

as for my namesake, made me a nice few pennies last year and early this until it went bust - hopefully twiston davies will get him right for next yr (ps he copied my name lol) - any thing you fancy much at cheltenham ? ive barely got involved in the ante post this yr as they seem to be pulling more and more out - glad i didnt lay the 94 at 1000 on kicking king that someone has when they thought it had been pulled lol. see barry dennis on telly today saying hes planning to lay all the well fancied favourites for the big races (moscow flyer, barracouda, best mate)

like you, used to be into the dogs, used to go to walthamstow and harlow a lot when i lived down south - where are your dogs based/who trains them?

Cheltenham is a better place to be a layer than a punter ( apart from 2 years ago of course)
Friend of mine who works for Met Office says shedloads of rain by Thursday next week...Best Mate must be the lay..Even though I dont want to knock him as he has been a real star, but I as soon as he crossed the line last year I thought he will never win another one...and on top of that he has performed below his normal standards this year and even though this years field are not looking that strong, I just cannot see him winning again

My current trainers are Dave Egan at Reading and Paul Phillpot at Rye House, plus Maria Nierobisz and David Flanagan in Ireland. I have got one thats ideal trip is 10 miles up the M1. You know the old joke...always starts at ten to one and finishes at half past four. However I have a machine that has only run Opens ( never even started off in graded). and 2 Pups.
I have had dogs with Tommy Foster and the best of the lot in my opinion Terry Keith in the good old Harringay days. Hazel Walden, Hazel Dickson and so the list goes on

be lucky

Piston

if i could find something to beat him id agree with you on best mate but the field looks very weak, theyll have him primed - if it doesnt rain at 3-1/7-2 hes a fair price

im normally a backer at cheltenham but that may change this yr - ive made good money last few years especially 4 yrs ago i think when i had the big three in a 100 treble 4 weeks before the meet!!!

Only one of the trainers i know is philpott at rye house, used to live in broxbourne 5 mins from rye house stadium

not old enough to remember haringay but my dad and grandad still harp on about it!!! feel free to share any decent info you get (use internal mail)

To be honest i don't subscribe to RUK so i can't comment, but I like ATR. Get On is quite lively (except when the clueless and irritating Chapman is on) and of course they provide a plentiful supply of afternoon racing chirping away in my ear during afternoon trading - also good coverage from ireland and Dubai recently. If we are really lucky then the delicious Miss Bird is on too!
I wouldn't pay for it though, unless the two channels merge and bring us every track in the UK on two channels (equivalent to sky sports one and two i guess), then i might, especially if rumours of C4 getting out next year are true.
Not sorted out my Cheltenham bets yet, but happy memories of three successive winning years (the worry is my luck must run out soon!). Suspiciion is it could be an Irish bonanza year.

Hawick

a good summary imo

sounds like we have had similar joy at cheltenham - hers to making it another successful yr - i will post my bets on the horse racing thread in the traders room

Fundamentalist...please see your own mail box

I wish I had laid Best Mate at the 11/4 yesterday,..still if I am really honest it is a tragedy for the sport that he wont be on centre stage.
The guys who has laid 1000/1 to 97 Kicking King must be really shi***** it now...rgds pb

Piston

Agree its a tragedy re: best mate - its now an exceptionally ordinary field for a gold cup

have to admit it would be quite amusing if kicking king was to win now - i expect those that backed will have laid it off now and spread the profit - i know i would have

email reply on its way

Piston

can you activate your mail facility so i can reply

F....have put an E Mail address in...is that what activates it?

It is a shame about Best Mate, and i have huge respect for all involved, (there's a but coming........) BUT all that cotton wool and still look what happens!!