Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

EL - why should this usher in a labour gov't? ...... hung parliament at the next election is surely the most likely ..... which party will hold the most seats is also a great unknown

even the last poll by the guardian (hardly pro tory) on 13/10 gave the tories a 4 point lead over labour ....... at this stage of a parliament, the numbers should at least be reversed, or even more in favour of the opposition

Here we go again.....like I said ...all that matters it seems is who's in or out.....

Brexit Facts:

The Prime Minister is turning out to be a very disappointing leader. Things started to go wrong for most of us when we heard she had offered to give the EU £39bn of our money in exchange for, well, nothing really.

The Cabinet also seem to be a disappointing lot. They do appear to be nothing much but a down-trodden bunch of 'Yes-Persons' who merely want to keep their cabinet positions at all costs.

rf: I agree.

God help the Tories if there were to be an imminent General Election. They would undoubtedly lose for sure.

EL - the guardian poll, for what it's worth, does not back your view ....... i have no idea what you truly expected any outcome of negotiations to be, but in my opinion, TM has done a pretty good job in almost impossible circumstances

who do you think would have done better? ........ and how?

As your on Alf can I draw your attention to post 9998.

Just watched Theresa almost choke when saying "the deal" was a "good deal".

You can always tell when she is lying, her lips keep moving.

Max,

That seems a very fair summation of the present government!

I wont disagree with you there Fred.

Not a bit like those truthful Labour and Liberal MP's eh?

Ya Boo George alert!

stan - i guess 13/11

Stanley that's very child like, but one day when you grow up and your IQ is bigger than your shoe size you may post something useful.

You mean yesterday ?

Not child like at all just the truth and do cut the snide comments out there’s a good chap.

I'm starting to think that the UK border could turn into some sort of EU illegal immigration "Maginot-line"....if they cannot resolve the Irish problem !...

if not yesterday, then try 12th or even 11th ........ i only came across it by chance, and not even sure how/where

Not snide at all Stanley, just my interpretation of your childish post.

Cynic , re who could have done a better job ..... errrr , me :-)

Rf , regarding what it'll mean to us the people , not a lot really one way or another imo but at least we can blame our own politicians for everything instead of some faceless beaurocrats in Brussels who answer to no one.

I don’t do childish George as you well know so no excuses please otherwise I shall demand compensation in the form of free drinks and a meal in your town in Cornwall, oh and a contribution to petrol money for my trouble to get down there.

Sadly for you I will be coming down from Burnley on the day of my choosing so let’s call it around 300 miles in petrol depending what settlement you reside in, what’s its name l can give you an accurate estimate then?