for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

Worrier - I picked up exactly the same message when I spoke woth Ian B - he said that they had to first of all concentrate their efforts on the low hanging fruit - but that they had discovered a whole raft of patents that could be brought to market once they had statred getting the cash flowing

Baza

New Scientist

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Cigarette butts go green
08 October 2005

Magazine issue 2520
The biodegradable cigarette butts are supposedly better for smokers as well as the environment

It's a PR challenge on a par with sprucing up the black death's public image. But for the people marketing tobacco there is a glimmer of hope in the form of biodegradable cigarette filters that are supposedly better for smokers as well as for the environment.

The compostable filters are made from food-grade starch, the carbohydrate polymer in foods such as potatoes and rice. The British company that is developing them, Southampton-based Stanelco, which already makes biodegradable packaging, says it is in talks with cigarette manufacturers in Europe, North America and Asia about using them to replace existing filters.

"There is no safe cigarette, but that doesn't mean that they should not be cleaner and greener," says Howard White, Stanelco's president. Stanelco says the butts will decompose in just two months, whereas existing filters made of the synthetic polymer cellulose acetate never biodegrade, creating 500,000 tonnes of pollution a year ...

The complete article is 320 words long.


http://www.newscientist.com/channel/earth/mg18825202.800

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Starch-Based Cigarette Filter Can Reduce Environmental Impact
Source: Environmental News Network, 2005-10-03

Intro:
ORLANDO, Florida Cigarette filters could soon be made of starch according to research at Biotec, a joint owned subsidiary of Stanelco and SP Metal. Starch is an organic compound found in products such as potatoes and rice, meaning smokers would not have to worry that fibers from the current filters, made of cellulose acetate, are entering their bodies. Starch based filters are biodegradable and compostable, dramatically lowering their impact on the environment.

http://www.tobacco.org/news/207280.html

I have seen not one single investor work out the calculations for the 'current rate' of greenseal take up, now confirmed by EVO as 20 per month .... so here we go ....

20 x 35,000 fitting = 700,000
20 x 25,000 licence = 500,000

Profit of 600,000 in total ? .... and every month will come another 600,000 profit !!!!

That soon obliterates the loss ....

Stanelco PLC
29 June 2005

Financial Highlights

Turnover of 629,000 (2004: 320,000)

Loss before taxation of 960,000 (2004: 490,000)


Cheers,
PM

Worth a read ....

http://www.agr.gc.ca/misb/spec/bio/pdf/plast2_e.pdf

so the next greenseal rns should say that 40 machines have now been converted, the 5 we know about and the 35 new ones predicted by evo and pm1. does it sound believable considering the two greenseal announcements so far were for 1 machine each time, (plus 3 maybes)?

Bosley Hi,

EVO state :-

At the end of the statement, Stanelco says the Greenseal project with Asda is
running in line with expectations and a number of machines will start operations
in the coming weeks. Our forecasts assume 20 machines are installed by the 31
October year end. The Company remains adamant it will reach the 200 target
assumed in the first 12 months under the Asda deal.

Whether or not the next Greenseal RNS says 40 depends on when they announce it, before or after the 40 are completed :)

Cheers,
PM

very near to meltdown - not far away - discount 2M buys - not real - see why it falls - if bid down to 14p - gravity takes over

i remember - EVO - saying in March - a steady stream of Greenseal sales revenue from April - did it happen - NO - NO - NO - do they make big mistakes - hype it up - YES - YES - YES - do you believe them now ????????????????????????????

price fall - says no - no - no - not believing anymore

ramp it - hype it - spin it - but its still a loss making company - making more losses - everyone wants out - as it heads down - to a level it should be - IMO - at 8p

Amities / Slt Bos / You seem an open minded, rational,and logical guy: even quite philisophical and objective { in so far as one be who trades stock can be } but to swallow PM and his google searches is asking to0 much . As i keep saying the mms will bounce this stock from 14.5 to 16.5 until this massive overhang is depleted : Then they they will drop it like a stone .@+.. J.,,,,After feeding every variable nto the equation l came up with 5.05p as fair and true value ....with very shallow support at 10p

pm1, there is a huge difference between what evo say and what you say...

evo say,
"Our forecasts assume 20 machines are installed by the 31
October year end."

you say
"I have seen not one single investor work out the calculations for the 'current rate' of greenseal take up, now confirmed by EVO as 20 per month "

evo "assume" 20 in total by 31/10.... they certainly haven't "confirmed" 20 a month.

Paul, you haven't answered my question from above - here it is again:-

Paul wrote:-

'If you think the last few RNS's were impressive, wait until you see the next few :)'

Paul,

do you have some specific knowledge of what will be in 'the next few' (if you do I'm not expecting you to divulge the information here)?

tfc, i don't know if i am missing your irony or you missed mine?

bosley, just going by the number of people that 'allegedly' have bought various product in ASDA sealed by Greenseal in the last few months and if we are to believe that more machines come online in the next few weeks then I think we could assume that there must be a few dozen done(or close to finished). If not then someone is telling porkies whether it be ASDA shoppers or SEO....

I was joking when I said 14p earlier, but it looks as though perhaps the MM's are trying to oblige!

qc, i have to admit that when i went to asda last week , i had to look a few times to find greensealed salmon. (the shelves were fully stocked, before someone says "they must have sold out" .) i bought some...... well , one has to do one's bit!!

Nearly 2:1 buys:sells but a price drop yet again???

qc you say that the MM`s are trying to oblige. They just keep the market moving and make a profit in doing so. I notice that there are lots of buys under the offer price ie people selling at a discount. Not a good sign of future price movement

A question for anyone. Can you tell me if any shares are held by institutions and if so what %?

PM

I am as hopeful as many on this board are about the future of SEO. I think that the management are good and seem to be getting to grips with marketing the products they have pretty well.

But please do not embelish the import of what EVO says by changing their words into your interpretation of what they mean and then using that to extrapolate and to re-inforce your own enthusiastic hopes for SEO's short to medium income/profits and consequently the share price.

We all welcome constructive opinions from all sides. Constructive in the context of investing, should mean honesty and accuracy.

The oily one

I think if you look at the arithmetic, EVO and PM are saying precisely the same thing.

The 12 months exclusive started 1st August - running 3 months to 31st October by when 20 machines will be up and running as per EVO.

Also as per EVO 200 machines will be in place within the 12 months.

Ergo, 180 machines will be installed in the remaininig 9 months.

Dividing 180 by 9 gives you 20 per month.

What's your problem.

Oh btw PM - nobody dared steal your thunder by posting this first, just in case you had nothing to post for a full five minutes. lol

sd

re 10785 no response yet. Can I presume that there are no invested institutions?