Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Irish border problem is an EU problem not ours.

Hils , ok I give up we should stay in because of 1 dickhead out of 34 million who voted in the referendum.

At , straws , clutching ..... rearrange :-)

Happy days.

Just like God and Burnley the UK ain’t going anywhere... thank you and goodnight flower 💐 😜

from today's guardian .....

The five business organisations – the CBI, Institute of Directors, British Chambers of Commerce, Federation of Small Businesses and the manufacturing body EEF – said they were horrified by the infighting at Westminster that has seen a meaningful vote on the prime minister’s plan delayed until the middle of next month.

Their statement will strengthen Downing Street’s case that MPs must accept the prime minister’s deal in the new year or face potential economic chaos.

“The responsibility to find a way forward now rests directly with 650 MPs in parliament,” the business groups’ statement said.

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exactly so!

The 1st Informed referendum is the only responsible way forward now, after the last 2 1/2 years of time and money wasted by your useless good for nothing excuse for a responsible goverment!

potentially a very good game wrecked by overpaid prima donnas

Thats your government your talking about is it ... at last I think you've got it 😂

stupid boy Pike!

..Yes I think you probably are 😎

You do realise it's your government too Stan.

Interesting.

Didn't realise that we had a government!

Do you mean the oligarchy of incompetents squatting in Downing Street?

Don't need to rearrange any sentences, thanks anyway Dilbert.

Brexit's gonna be cancelled,doncha know? Mainly because there are shedloads of dickheads like Robert from Rochester, and Parliament will step in to fix it so they can all keep their three-pin plugs.

:o)

With exactly 100 days to go to the scheduled date of Brexit, supporters of a People’s Vote have warned of crisis unless the correct path is found through the current uncertainty.

Labour’s David Lammy said the prime minister was heading for “disaster” from which neither she nor her party would recover if she tried to dodge growing pressure for a People’s Vote, and allowed the clock to run down to a no-deal Brexit on March 29 2019.

Their comments came as campaigners released new analysis of polling which they said showed increased support for a second referendum in every part of the country - including the constituencies of the prime minister and leading Brexiteer Boris Johnson.

Best for Britain said its data modelling suggested that support for remaining in the EU was running as high as 56% against 44% for leaving - a larger margin than has been seen in any mainstream poll since the 2016 referendum.

Lammy, a supporter of Best for Britain, said that May had to confront the fact that there was no majority in Parliament for the deal she has negotiated with Brussels, or for any other proposed deal, such as Norway-style single market membership or a Canada-plus free trade agreement.

If there was no second referendum, the next most likely outcome was departure without a deal - even though there is “certainly” no majority in Parliament for that - he said.

“The political confusion amounts to a constitutional crisis,” said Lammy.

He said it would be “futile” for MPs to express their preferences on alternative deals in an “indicative vote”, as this would simply eat up more time without producing a decisive result.

“I believe that politics is stuck and when politics and the political establishment is stuck, in our system the only way to unlock it is to go back to the people in the hope that we get a clear instruction from the British population,” he said.

While that could be done through a general election, a clearer route would be a second EU referendum.

“The pressure that Theresa May is under as of today is to understand what is the best Plan B,” said Lammy.

“There are lots of people, including in her own party, advising her that the best Plan B is a second referendum.

“It may be her instinct to run down the clock to get to a no-deal Brexit, which I think would be a disaster that I don’t think she or the Conservatives would recover from.

“It would leave the country badly, badly, badly divided and in a chaotic state.”

Lammy said he believed that 100 days from now, Britain would have secured an extension of Article 50 and be preparing for a second vote, possibly in June. And he said he and other Remain campaigners should accept the result of a new referendum as definitive.

“I feel the public are way more informed than they were previously and therefore it is incumbent on all of us to absolutely get behind whatever the instruction is from the British people at the end of a second referendum.”

Tory former cabinet minister Nicky Morgan said MPs would have to decide whether to stay “stuck in their own views” or “compromise sufficiently” in the coming weeks.

She said there would be an “almighty battle between Parliament and government” if May’s deal fails to pass the Commons, and warned that a no-deal outcome would be “deeply, deeply damaging” to the country, economy and people’s financial prosperity.

And she said: “I think eventually Parliament is going to have to decide, MPs on all sides are going to have to decide whether they’re going to stay stuck in their own views or whether they are prepared to compromise sufficiently to find a majority around a position which delivers the referendum result but does it with a soft Brexit.”

With Lammy and Morgan, you have chosen the remainer equivalents of the man from Rochester, Hilary. Now add Fred and Stan and you will have a barbershop quartet.

Hils , 100 days to go.

Tic toc.

:-)

It,

Swallow it, or choke on it.

"Lammy said he believed that 100 days from now, Britain would have secured an extension of Article 50 and be preparing for a second vote, possibly in June. And he said he and other Remain campaigners should accept the result of a new referendum as definitive.

“I feel the public are way more informed than they were previously and therefore it is incumbent on all of us to absolutely get behind whatever the instruction is from the British people at the end of a second referendum.”


My guess that the above, or something similar, will happen.

your guess is no better or worse than anyone else's ....... no one knows what will happen, but whatever it is it will probably not be what anyone actually expects

"Stupid Woman"!

I would think the word applicable.

What do some want another stupid man?

It. Stand up.

-=-=--

But when in the HP. you have "policies" which are probably going to destroy the UK economy are being tried to be enacted or driven through by an out of control cabal I think the language used was appropriate.

After you, Fred.
The problem with your type is that you never see wrong in anything the dopey left does. You even think Abbott is not innumerate. If the Mars rover was run past the Labour front bench it would send signals of no sign of intelligent life.

My type!

O dear.

Be careful you may get your hands dirty.

I am known to be contagious.

Fred do you really want a return to the late 1960's and 1970's when union power ruled and 10 million working days were lost to strikes when even nurses and electricity workers went on strike, some strikes were unofficial. Inflation peaked at 28%, what would that do for young couples now?