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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

2517GEORGE - 20 Dec 2018 10:57 - 11027 of 12628

Like much of your guesswork in post 11004 you are again wrong, I was a member of a union. Some union officials were ok but many were out for their own ends--the likes of Jack Dromey spring to mind.

Fred1new - 20 Dec 2018 12:22 - 11028 of 12628

Georgie,

I wouldn't have supposed in "those days" you weren't a member of a union, for any large employer it was almost obligatory for the workforce to be so

I remember being about the levy being taken out of my pay packets and complaining to my father who was "management" about it.

He pointed out to me the "protections and social improvements" the unions had made and the protection and help it might give to me if I had an "accident" etc.. He also pointed out some of the daftness of some of the union representatives.

Martini - 20 Dec 2018 12:34 - 11029 of 12628

MHLW

Fred1new - 20 Dec 2018 15:44 - 11030 of 12628

I wonder if TM will end her reign over the split tory party in the same way as Eden and Macmillan did.

Stan - 20 Dec 2018 16:23 - 11031 of 12628

George a member of a union which one? not the NFU was it 😆

2517GEORGE - 20 Dec 2018 16:33 - 11032 of 12628

Ha! Ha! Very good Stan that's a turnip for the book. No it wasn't the NFU.

Stan - 20 Dec 2018 16:43 - 11033 of 12628

😆 very good that.

The EETPU perhaps?

2517GEORGE - 20 Dec 2018 17:00 - 11034 of 12628

No not the EETPU either, although that morphed into a nasty Unit(e) with Len McCluskey as Gen. Sec.

Stan - 20 Dec 2018 17:05 - 11035 of 12628

Who then?

2517GEORGE - 20 Dec 2018 17:29 - 11036 of 12628

Is that a cryptic clue for the Musicians Union, if so then no it's not them either.

Stan - 20 Dec 2018 17:51 - 11037 of 12628

Nope I give up.

2517GEORGE - 21 Dec 2018 16:48 - 11038 of 12628

Merry Christmas and A happy New Year everyone, whether a Leaver or Remainer, Tory or Labour, Cardiff or Burnley, let's look forward to a healthy 2019 for us all.

Oh and

This time next year will be our first Managed No Deal Brexit Christmas and the Remoaners will wonder why they kicked up such a fuss, the scare stories will be seen to be just that, stories. Harmony will reign, perhaps with 1 or 2 exceptions.

Stan - 22 Dec 2018 07:21 - 11039 of 12628

Merry Christmas and A happy New Year everyone, whether a Leaver or Remainer, Tory or Labour or Neither, Carduffs or Burnley, let's look forward to a healthy 2019 for us all.

Oh and

This time next year will be our usual European Christmas and the leaves will wonder why they kicked up such a fuss, the scare stories will be seen to be just that, stories. Harmony will reign, perhaps with 1 or 2 exceptions.

iturama - 22 Dec 2018 10:04 - 11040 of 12628

I think you meant kicked up the leaves Stanley. Happy Christmas to all, including you and your hero Freddy, let's hope the psycho in the White House does something positive in the New Year, like resigning, and the markets turn around.
2019 is Freedom from the EUSSR year. Mark it in your calendar.

Fred1new - 22 Dec 2018 12:41 - 11041 of 12628

One of the Itma show!

George Osborne: Conservatives must adapt to stay in power
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Former chancellor and Remain campaigner George Osborne now edits the Evening Standard newspaper
The Conservative Party is heading towards a "prolonged period" in opposition unless it adapts to modern Britain, George Osborne has said.

The former chancellor, who was sacked by Theresa May in 2016, said the party needed to become more socially-liberal and pro-business to survive in power.

The ex-frontbencher, who now edits the Evening Standard newspaper, campaigned for Remain in the EU referendum.

He added he believes a general election could be likely in 2019.




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46655969

Fred1new - 22 Dec 2018 14:24 - 11042 of 12628

If you have spare time have a look at the summation the world 2019 on I player of This Week.

Interesting!

(At least to me.)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bw5jmk/this-week-20122018

Fred1new - 22 Dec 2018 14:37 - 11043 of 12628

Also, I would like to say the best of season's greetings to all including Manuel and a few more unlikely lads and lasses.

Also, many thanks to RF for starting this thread and GF for the Talk to Your Self, thread.

In the spirit of Xmas, would it be possible to allow GF and Exec to start posting again, even though I disagree with the latter on many things?

-=-=-=

Nadolig llawen a blwyddyn newydd dda pawb



cynic - 22 Dec 2018 14:47 - 11044 of 12628

i suspect GF is banned for life ....... when the mood or the demon drink takes him, he's still as bats as ever

have managed to get myself a job here over christmas on double bubble, and with a bit of luck, the tips should be good too ...... certainly some of the tits are :-)

Fred1new - 22 Dec 2018 14:54 - 11045 of 12628

Reads as if you are on the bottle too.

cynic - 22 Dec 2018 14:59 - 11046 of 12628

not so ...... went for a great walk x-country this morning and finished with a very pleasant pint of wadworth 6x
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