Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Iturama,

I read about that suggestion last week, but it comes from a minority of Brextremists who lost their voice when their leadership challenge failed last month.

She needs 2/3 of the House to consent before calling an election under the terms of the Fixed Term Parliament Act. Whilst Corbyn might want an election himself, the majority of MPs certainly don't want to leave the EU without a deal, so it's anybody's guess what would happen if she tried puling that stunt. Further, there's a serious risk she'd lose a general election.

But also, the cynical side of my nature suggests she'll be quite happy to extend Article 50, and attempt to exonerate herself in so doing by blaming Parliament for impasse. Then, once Article 50 has been extended once, it'll be easy to extend it again. And before you know it, it'll be revoked completely. No more referendums - just Brexit RIP.

why would you not agree that it is indeed parliament, or more specifically, certain MP's with their own personal agendas that have caused the impasse?

So what happens if she loses a no confidence vote Hils ?

I believe Corbyn then gets an opportunity to form a minority government, Dil. If he can't do that, then a general election. But not first without either extending or revoking completely Article 50.

But, I think that's slightly academic as I'm not convinced he'd win a vote of no confidence in the Government.

Cyners,

All politicians need to be able to blame somebody or something other than themselves for their own failings. If they can't do that, they tend not to have careers in politics that last very long.

Dil the Informed referendum? will you be voting in or out this time? P.11462.

11477.

Hilary, so you reckon Corbyn would bottle it if she called for a GE? I thought that's what they all wanted on the clown's side of the house. She could also go for a vote of no confidence with the backing of her own. Would Corbyn bottle that? Either way, the tory scabs have reneged on the manifesto pledge to exit the single market and customs union and should have the whip removed. Let them fight the next election as independents on their own coin.

I don't think Corbyn would bottle it, Iturama, but Parliament is dissolved 25 working days (ie 5 weeks normally) before the general election takes place. So please tell me how a general election in April would help.

Best thing is a GE called by TM and be blunt and say as the MP`s are trying to out vote the public - as they will not back my deal - I am seeking public support for No Deal - A Clean Break, and JC would wet himself with fear of being out for good.

All we hear is the political situation with who will be the next PM....what the country needs is somebody that can take Brexit by the scruff of the neck and deliver what has been promised to the british public.....frankly TM is making a mess of this and I cannot see JC doing any better at all...all he is bothered about is becoming the next PM...god help us all if that happens.....we should never have had a remainer seeing to an exit from the mess that the EU is.....

EU sends letter to reassure UK that Irish border backstop only ‘temporary’
EU leaders have written to Theresa May to reassure British MPs that a backstop arrangement for keeping the UK tied to European customs rules will only be in place “temporarily”

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totally meaningless of course and not worth the paper it's written on if push comes to shove

The EU snake singing Trust In Me.

To a government who they probably think not reliable enough to write to.

Stan , Corby will never go for a second referendum as his 70 easiest target seats at the next election all voted leave I believe.

He can't afford to piss them off if he wants any chance of winning a general election.

They should flip a coin , deal or no deal then get on with it.

Fred1new [Send an email to Fred1new] [View Fred1new's profile] - 14 Jan 2019 13:02 - 11489 of 11492

To a government who they probably think not reliable enough to write to.

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EU Dictionary: reliable - see servile.

Plenty of vile sirs in Parliament happy to do the EU's job. In the interest of equality, let us not forget the ladies.

Cheers,
KidA

"Assistant whip Gareth Johnson became the latest member of the government to quit his job over the deal, saying in his resignation letter to the PM that it would be "detrimental to our nation's interests".

He added: "The time has come to place my loyalty to my country above my loyalty to the government."

'They should flip a coin , deal or no deal then get on with it.'

Blimey Dilbert, who do you think you are? Noel Edmonds or summat?

:o)

Well it's as good a plan as anyone on here or in Parliament have come up with.

And Cardiff City have had to issue a statement today on the matter after Warnock told reporters his view on things at the weekend.

Warnock should be PM :-)

Surprised ar you Dil, as you seem that you are now happy to stay in on the flip of a coin - unless its a doublesided one with out on boths sides that is. :-)