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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Clocktower - 14 Jan 2019 11:57 - 11484 of 12628

Best thing is a GE called by TM and be blunt and say as the MP`s are trying to out vote the public - as they will not back my deal - I am seeking public support for No Deal - A Clean Break, and JC would wet himself with fear of being out for good.

required field - 14 Jan 2019 12:11 - 11485 of 12628

All we hear is the political situation with who will be the next PM....what the country needs is somebody that can take Brexit by the scruff of the neck and deliver what has been promised to the british public.....frankly TM is making a mess of this and I cannot see JC doing any better at all...all he is bothered about is becoming the next PM...god help us all if that happens.....we should never have had a remainer seeing to an exit from the mess that the EU is.....

cynic - 14 Jan 2019 12:13 - 11486 of 12628

EU sends letter to reassure UK that Irish border backstop only ‘temporary’
EU leaders have written to Theresa May to reassure British MPs that a backstop arrangement for keeping the UK tied to European customs rules will only be in place “temporarily”

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totally meaningless of course and not worth the paper it's written on if push comes to shove

KidA - 14 Jan 2019 12:35 - 11487 of 12628

The EU snake singing Trust In Me.

Fred1new - 14 Jan 2019 13:02 - 11488 of 12628

To a government who they probably think not reliable enough to write to.

Dil - 14 Jan 2019 13:33 - 11489 of 12628

Stan , Corby will never go for a second referendum as his 70 easiest target seats at the next election all voted leave I believe.

He can't afford to piss them off if he wants any chance of winning a general election.

Dil - 14 Jan 2019 13:34 - 11490 of 12628

They should flip a coin , deal or no deal then get on with it.

KidA - 14 Jan 2019 13:39 - 11491 of 12628

Fred1new [Send an email to Fred1new] [View Fred1new's profile] - 14 Jan 2019 13:02 - 11489 of 11492

To a government who they probably think not reliable enough to write to.

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EU Dictionary: reliable - see servile.

Plenty of vile sirs in Parliament happy to do the EU's job. In the interest of equality, let us not forget the ladies.

Cheers,
KidA

Fred1new - 14 Jan 2019 14:12 - 11492 of 12628

"Assistant whip Gareth Johnson became the latest member of the government to quit his job over the deal, saying in his resignation letter to the PM that it would be "detrimental to our nation's interests".

He added: "The time has come to place my loyalty to my country above my loyalty to the government."

hilary - 14 Jan 2019 14:40 - 11493 of 12628

'They should flip a coin , deal or no deal then get on with it.'

Blimey Dilbert, who do you think you are? Noel Edmonds or summat?

:o)

Dil - 14 Jan 2019 14:47 - 11494 of 12628

Well it's as good a plan as anyone on here or in Parliament have come up with.

And Cardiff City have had to issue a statement today on the matter after Warnock told reporters his view on things at the weekend.

Warnock should be PM :-)

Clocktower - 14 Jan 2019 15:01 - 11495 of 12628

Surprised ar you Dil, as you seem that you are now happy to stay in on the flip of a coin - unless its a doublesided one with out on boths sides that is. :-)

Stan - 14 Jan 2019 15:45 - 11496 of 12628

It's not Labour who neccessarly will go for the 1st informed referendum and to be honest nor the Government unless forced...I can see no alternative now though.

Could do a lot worst then Warnock Dil 🙂

cynic - 14 Jan 2019 15:56 - 11497 of 12628

so in your informed opinion, what do you think labour will actually support or propose, notwithstanding that that changes almost by the hour?

Stan - 14 Jan 2019 16:02 - 11498 of 12628

Oh your talking now are you Alf, like the majority in this Country I have no idea or interest what Party politicians say on Brexit as most of it is hot air like much of what you outsiders spout on here and have done for over 2 1/2 years now.

Clocktower - 14 Jan 2019 16:35 - 11499 of 12628

TM`s statement sets out why it is time to back it as it may turn out to be the deal that keeps Labour out, and may now lead to the outcome over a number of years that Clean Break supporters want.

Fred1new - 14 Jan 2019 17:07 - 11500 of 12628

Manuel,

All but, staying in EU.


Mind TM and the tories exiters will be begging at the table but not drawing up the menues.

Fred1new - 14 Jan 2019 17:43 - 11501 of 12628

Now it is an ill-informed parliament.

Stan - 14 Jan 2019 18:10 - 11502 of 12628

Get Dominic back on the case I say 😎

required field - 14 Jan 2019 18:27 - 11503 of 12628

Well...you know what they say in Ukraine :...a pessimist is an informed optimist !....
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