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- 03 Feb 2016 10:00
Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2019 14:21
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Whatever the figure is, it won't say much for the bunch of incompetents in government.
iturama
- 15 Jan 2019 18:04
- 11551 of 12628
It was on the BBC so must be true.
There's a big problem facing members of Parliament who want to avoid a no-deal Brexit. They can't just show there is a majority in the House of Commons against no deal - they need to prove there is a majority in favour of an alternative outcome.
That's because leaving the EU - with or without a deal - is currently the default.
If the agreement the prime minister has negotiated with the EU fails to pass the House of Commons, the UK will leave with no deal at all unless something changes, because leaving the EU is written into UK law.
The EU Withdrawal Act sets 29 March as the date of departure.
The wording of the act does allow a minister to change the definition of "exit day" relatively quickly using a statutory instrument - a piece of secondary legislation - rather than an entirely new act of Parliament that would need to be debated. A minister would have to propose the change and MPs would have to approve it.
Article 50
But there is a second and more significant reason why no deal would become the default position: that's what EU law says.
Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is the formal route for any country leaving the EU and it allows for a two-year process of negotiation. At the end of that period "the treaties shall cease to apply to the state in question" unless Article 50 is extended or revoked.
The most obvious way therefore to stop a no-deal Brexit, or any form of Brexit, is to revoke Article 50.
The question is would Teresa May dare after all that Brexit means Brexit palaver?
Claret Dragon
- 15 Jan 2019 18:19
- 11552 of 12628
Off for a meaningful pint down the Nuclear before the withdrawal agreement at the close.
Stan
- 15 Jan 2019 19:58
- 11553 of 12628
Vote lost 230 votes, informed referendum and remain wins.
What a complete and utter waste of time and money.
Martini
- 15 Jan 2019 20:10
- 11554 of 12628
The exercising of parliamentary democracy can hardly be described as a waste of time. The theatre goes on. I want the box set.
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2019 20:12
- 11555 of 12628
Do you mean the conservative club fees or blood donors?
Donors to the bribery funds seem to be needed!
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Manuel, Dil and IT, must be in the Brewery waiting for the party.
Stan
- 15 Jan 2019 20:15
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What for two and a half years? M the Joker.
Dil
- 15 Jan 2019 20:29
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Well that's Mrs Mays shitty deal well and truly binned.
Can't wait til we leave with no deal and Scarlett Johansson turns up on my door step.
Happy days :-)
Stan
- 15 Jan 2019 20:38
- 11558 of 12628
Dil repeat after me, we are not leaving Europe...we are not..
Dil
- 15 Jan 2019 20:44
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73 days to go Stan and she's running the clock down nicely.
29th March from here on in will be known as Scarlett day :-)
Dil
- 15 Jan 2019 20:47
- 11560 of 12628
Barny and Junky must be suicidal this evening , EU skint unless they come up with a proper offer.
Martini
- 15 Jan 2019 20:52
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Stan what is a waste of time is the 2 1/2 years you have spent trying to understand the question.
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2019 21:10
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Martini.
You must have been at the brewery party.
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Still, in the EU, the con party consigned to the compost heap and the tax man with the next labour party looking for pickings.
Watch out the men in white coats are looking for you.
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2019 21:16
- 11563 of 12628
PS..
Is this what the Brexiters were promising.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-regulation-bafin/brexit-lures-numerous-financial-institutions-to-germany-watchdog-idUKKCN1P92FG?feedType=nl&feedName=ukdailyinvestor&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018%20Template:%20UK%20DAILY%20INVESTOR%20UPDATE%202019-01-15&utm_term=NEW:%20UK%20Daily%20Investor%20Update
FRANKFURT (Reuters) - More than 45 financial institutions are planning to newly establish themselves or significantly increase their presence in Germany as a result of Britain’s planned exit from the European Union, a German official said on Tuesday.
The figure was announced by Felix Hufeld, the president of Germany’s financial markets watchdog BaFin. It marks the most up-to-date and authoritative indication of Brexit’s impact on Germany’s financial landscape.
Among banks that announced plans to relocate some of their EU operations to Frankfurt are Citigroup (C.N), JPMorgan Chase (JPM.N), Morgan Stanley (MS.N), and Standard Chartered [STANB.UL].
In August, Hufeld said that Germany was processing more than 25 banking licences.
Hufeld also called on Tuesday for greater coordination in Europe in the fight against money laundering.
“For me, money laundering preventing is an absolutely urgent task,” Hufeld said. “A better coordination in Europe is necessary.”
Stan
- 15 Jan 2019 21:38
- 11564 of 12628
Martini do try and grow up if you can.
Martini
- 15 Jan 2019 21:41
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Dear Martin,
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Martini
- 15 Jan 2019 21:43
- 11566 of 12628
Money well spent. I’m in for a Euro
Dil
- 15 Jan 2019 22:39
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Lol , not just the EU skint then.
Martini
- 15 Jan 2019 23:08
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Dil I am reaching for my check book as we speak.
Clocktower
- 16 Jan 2019 08:04
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Tusk already trying to get the UK to stay, as being what they were working towards all along.
Time to give him and them a big kick up the backside and boot them into touch.