Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

OECD chief Jose Angel Gurría is so chillaxed about a no-deal Brexit. Telling Sky’s Ed Conway in Davos, “What’s the worst scenario? A no deal, WTO rules…the whole world is running by WTO rules these days!”

https://order-order.com/2019/01/22/oecd-chief-says-wto-brexit-will-seamless-low-cost/

Oh dear George and H/S in their usual deluded mood making false claims tut tut now.

Those employment figures simply show that the UK is thriving within the EU. Given that Brexit is likely to hit GDP by 9%, the employment figures for Q4 2021 will be the important ones - assuming Brexit ever happens, that is.

Haystack,

There's probably a majority in Parliament for ruling out a no deal. An Article 50 extension or revocation is the mechanism for that to happen.

There's possibly also a parliamentary majority for a customs union, or a Norway + style Brexit.

What false claims have I made in my post Stan?

Your P. 11810 George.

George.

When you quote "unemployment figures" consider the number of the "said employed" on "Minimum hours" and also the value of earnings 2008-10 to now.

Also, pop down your "Food Banks" and have a quick look at the lazy dossers sleeping out on streets at night near you.

Also, have a look at serious crime and prosecution rates.

Also, have a look at company investment in RandD and share buybacks in the UK.

to get a balanced view (probably unwelcome to many here), no doubt worth looking at the reciprocal numbers in the various eu member states

They aren't false Stan, members of my family who voted Remain have changed their minds, they cite the threats and bullying both here and from the likes of Macron and Juncker being the reason.

Several friends and neighbours, so fed up with MP's bickering and not abiding by the majority, are also changing their view.


Perhaps you could tell me what forecast disasters have befallen us since the June 2016 vote to Leave

Said before George but as usual you refused to engage you really do need to get out of Cornwall and spread your outlook on events on the evidence of some of your posts.

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Minimum hours, there was a report in November I believe (which I can't substantiate) stating the number on MH had reduced.

Fred I don't disagree re value of earnings, ask yourself the reason for it. Likewise foodbanks and the homeless.

Company investment has been held back because of Remain voting MP's and their billionaire backers trying to undermine democracy, companies need stability before committing sums to the future, these Remainers and many others like yourself are creating instability.

As for share buybacks I have always disliked them, many companies are storing up huge debt problems by borrowing to fund buybacks, whilst borrowing rates are low atm that will not always be so.

Basically you cannot name a single one then Stan, thought not.

Perhaps you could tell me what forecast disasters have befallen us since the June 2016 vote to Leave

Errrrm. You're still in the EU at the moment, so why would you be prone to disaster just yet?

That said, my son's an advisory manager for one of the Big Four. The project he's currently working on would involve several thousand jobs shifting from London to Frankfurt as a direct result of Brexit.

Stan [Send an email to Stan] [View Stan's profile] - 23 Jan 2019 09:44 - 11794 of 11822

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Europe is not perfect by any means but instead of raging on the outside it's about time our Governments especially this one started being more pro active inside!

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Indeed it isn't, nor is the EU Europe; the UK is in Europe.

Cheers,
KidA

George you are so childish and immature.

What on earth are you talking about KA, your getting as bad as George.

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What I am inferring on Minimum hours are many of those do so are actually working minimal hours.

What would be useful would be actual hours worked and hourly rate etc.

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I would also like to see the main occupations of many of the MPs wishing Brexit. (such as investment Funds etc.) (Good old dyson's suction plans.)

Also, would suggest that many of those MPs and supporters wishing Brexit, also wished for lighter touch "financial regulations" and hope they can avoid some of impending or propose EU financial tightenings.

Maybe I am wrong, but I think it is self-interest which the driving force for many Brexiters like Redwing, IDS, Villain, PAttercake, Fernandel, Bakeit etc.

But my nose wrinkles when I hear them.

Not forgetting Tim Martin of Wetherspoons, Fred but as you say to many with a specific self interest in all this “let’s make England Great again” nonsense.

Stan (on edit)

Copying cynic's view of yourself eh!


hilary, all kinds of disasters were going to befall us if we VOTED to Leave (not actually left) which we did, we are still waiting for them to happen.

Oh, you mean like getting your tie caught in the wheels of your Sovereign Shoprider on the way back from the polling station?