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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Stan - 23 Jan 2019 14:28 - 11825 of 12628

George you are so childish and immature.

Stan - 23 Jan 2019 14:30 - 11826 of 12628

What on earth are you talking about KA, your getting as bad as George.

Fred1new - 23 Jan 2019 14:31 - 11827 of 12628

P11821

What I am inferring on Minimum hours are many of those do so are actually working minimal hours.

What would be useful would be actual hours worked and hourly rate etc.

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I would also like to see the main occupations of many of the MPs wishing Brexit. (such as investment Funds etc.) (Good old dyson's suction plans.)

Also, would suggest that many of those MPs and supporters wishing Brexit, also wished for lighter touch "financial regulations" and hope they can avoid some of impending or propose EU financial tightenings.

Maybe I am wrong, but I think it is self-interest which the driving force for many Brexiters like Redwing, IDS, Villain, PAttercake, Fernandel, Bakeit etc.

But my nose wrinkles when I hear them.

Stan - 23 Jan 2019 14:36 - 11828 of 12628

Not forgetting Tim Martin of Wetherspoons, Fred but as you say to many with a specific self interest in all this “let’s make England Great again” nonsense.

2517GEORGE - 23 Jan 2019 14:37 - 11829 of 12628

Stan (on edit)

Copying cynic's view of yourself eh!


hilary, all kinds of disasters were going to befall us if we VOTED to Leave (not actually left) which we did, we are still waiting for them to happen.

hilary - 23 Jan 2019 14:44 - 11830 of 12628

Oh, you mean like getting your tie caught in the wheels of your Sovereign Shoprider on the way back from the polling station?

2517GEORGE - 23 Jan 2019 14:44 - 11831 of 12628

Fred I think we all know that with few exceptions most MP's of whatever party and whatever view, put their own self interests before the country's interest.

Stan - 23 Jan 2019 14:44 - 11832 of 12628

When are going to grow up George?

2517GEORGE - 23 Jan 2019 14:47 - 11833 of 12628

hilary, Ha! Ha! I've just looked that up, I didn't know what it was.

Dil - 23 Jan 2019 14:51 - 11834 of 12628

9% fall in GDP , lol pull the other one Hils it got bells on.

Who told you that Osbourne or Carney ???

I might as well predict a 9% increase as no one can reliably forecast anything 6 months in advance let alone the period your forecast is over which you conveniently failed to mention.

Dil - 23 Jan 2019 14:54 - 11835 of 12628

And you remoaners clutching at straws , you do realise there is no legal obligation on the government to do anything regarding the amendments being put forward even if there is a majority for any of them ?

65 days to go , we're leaving , get over it.

Stan - 23 Jan 2019 15:08 - 11836 of 12628

Is that right? doesn't sound very democratic.

hilary - 23 Jan 2019 15:11 - 11837 of 12628

Dil,

I thought that's what the IMF said in their November forecast in the event of a no deal.

As for legal obligation, doesn't the Nick Boles amendment to temporarily suspend standing orders allow sufficient time for Parliament to legally take control, during which Yvette Cooper's amendment for a 9 month Article 50 extension would be voted upon?

(Just Googled the IMF forecast, and it was 8%, not 9% - my bad)

Dil - 23 Jan 2019 15:13 - 11838 of 12628

Lol , you mean us leaving on the 29th after a majority vote to leave by the people , Parliament voting to trigger Article 50 and 84% of voters voting for a party fighting the last election on a leave ticket ?

Seems democratic to me Stan.

hilary - 23 Jan 2019 15:14 - 11839 of 12628

Nick Boles amendment explained

Dil - 23 Jan 2019 15:17 - 11840 of 12628

And you conveniently forgot the time period again Hils.

Have the IMF ever got anything right ?

Forecasting doom and gloom within 2 minutes of a leave vote being confirmed this time three years ago.

Says it all , you'd be bankrupt in months if you traded based on their forecasts.

Stan - 23 Jan 2019 15:19 - 11841 of 12628

Dill? how many more times..we ain't leaving so please plan to emigrate to a non European Country -):

Haystack - 23 Jan 2019 15:21 - 11842 of 12628

Nick Boles amendment is to make it possible for Nick Boles to introduce a Bill to stop no deal Brexit. It requires a Bill as only primary legislation can stop it. However, May can ask the Queen to refuse Royal assent to it. The other nuclear solution is for May to prorogue parliament (end the session). All legislation in progress is then lost. Then a new session of parliament begins with a be Queen's speech.

hilary - 23 Jan 2019 15:23 - 11843 of 12628

Are you suggesting that I spun the headline for impact, Dil? Sacré bleu!!!

Btw, how are we doing on that £350m a week for the NHS?

Haystack - 23 Jan 2019 15:26 - 11844 of 12628

They only get the £350m after we leave. It was also a promise made by some leave supporters. It wasn't a manifesto pledge and it wasn't a general election. It is unfortunate that people are gullible and didn't consider the lack of a mechanism for getting the money.
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