Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

not scaremongering at all; more like pointing out the fairly obvious

Stop arguing Alf.

https://order-order.com/2019/01/23/irish-pm-privately-telling-opposition-leaders-hard-border-will-calais/

The People’s Vote campaign have been getting an absolute kicking overnight on the back of Alex Wickham’s big expose, following Guido’s report on the campaign infighting last month. Surprisingly, much of it is coming from the left, with Owen Jones leading the charge against it:

https://order-order.com/2019/01/23/owen-jones-turns-absolute-disaster-peoples-vote-campaign/

No body cares in the real world H/S about what is said or not as brexit is just not going to happen.

Hopefully it will. It's looking more likely over the last few days.

More bad news for we Leavers:-

Highest number in employment since records began in 1971 ; Unemployment rate falls to lowest level in 44 years.

It gets worse :-

Earnings rose 3.4%, real pay growth up ;

Government borrowing so far this year the lowest for 16 years.

The County has more to gain by staying in than leaving and that's what more and more people are now realising thankfully.

No majority for remaining or a second referendum. The remainers are deluded.

Stan, more and more people, especially ordinary people who voted Remain are turning towards Leave because of the Remainers constant threats, and outrageous claims of doom which have over the past 2 years been seen to be false.

OECD chief Jose Angel Gurría is so chillaxed about a no-deal Brexit. Telling Sky’s Ed Conway in Davos, “What’s the worst scenario? A no deal, WTO rules…the whole world is running by WTO rules these days!”

https://order-order.com/2019/01/22/oecd-chief-says-wto-brexit-will-seamless-low-cost/

Oh dear George and H/S in their usual deluded mood making false claims tut tut now.

Those employment figures simply show that the UK is thriving within the EU. Given that Brexit is likely to hit GDP by 9%, the employment figures for Q4 2021 will be the important ones - assuming Brexit ever happens, that is.

Haystack,

There's probably a majority in Parliament for ruling out a no deal. An Article 50 extension or revocation is the mechanism for that to happen.

There's possibly also a parliamentary majority for a customs union, or a Norway + style Brexit.

What false claims have I made in my post Stan?

Your P. 11810 George.

George.

When you quote "unemployment figures" consider the number of the "said employed" on "Minimum hours" and also the value of earnings 2008-10 to now.

Also, pop down your "Food Banks" and have a quick look at the lazy dossers sleeping out on streets at night near you.

Also, have a look at serious crime and prosecution rates.

Also, have a look at company investment in RandD and share buybacks in the UK.

to get a balanced view (probably unwelcome to many here), no doubt worth looking at the reciprocal numbers in the various eu member states

They aren't false Stan, members of my family who voted Remain have changed their minds, they cite the threats and bullying both here and from the likes of Macron and Juncker being the reason.

Several friends and neighbours, so fed up with MP's bickering and not abiding by the majority, are also changing their view.


Perhaps you could tell me what forecast disasters have befallen us since the June 2016 vote to Leave

Said before George but as usual you refused to engage you really do need to get out of Cornwall and spread your outlook on events on the evidence of some of your posts.