for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

biscuit
statment 3oct now 21oct how short is shortly
if no new by monday even just a report in a paper
i think the company is letting us down andmissing agreat pr chance
after all two shows and stillnot a word from them
still holding tight 123

BH Thank you. Might be tempted .

pisces: I have also made thepoint that the downtrend has not yet been broken although the recent recovery was quite significant in volume terms. An effort seems to be in process to change the trend line at least returning to the horizontal. Personally, I see 8p as very unlikely. 10p would be a cap of some 90M. ASDA on its own counts for 5p. Min addition of 2.5p for other sales of Greenseal and min of 2.5p for Starpol. T&G forecast is quite conservative and implies sp of 21p although, as andysmith has pointed out there are a number of assumptions. My point would be that a number of investment buys would be brought in at 12p and certainly at 10p based on very reasonable forecasts. Baza, I believe, called it right at 12p. I can't see any Starpol announcements having a significant effect on value unless linked to Greenseal and I believe we just need to be patient for those.

Eric

"Major steps are also being made in both Europe and North America towards the commercialisation of a number of projects, particularly those involving Biotec's materials and Stanelco intends to update the market with these developments shortly."

Enough said

Biscuit,
I know you love that part of the RNS but...............
Enough said.
Alan

Sorry Alan,

But it does get tiresome listening to Traders speculating about there uptrends, downtrends and refering to no factual releases from the company what so ever. If you are a Trader" then you should be on the Traders Thread not the investors thread.

Biscuit

Twas only a joke, Biscuit!!
I agree, as it happens, and I am in for the long haul. I'm not a big fan of charting either, but you've got to hand it to the charters, they've called it right recently.
I just wish all the RNS material was as clear as the one you quote.
Alan

No probs Alan.

That's why I quote it, it's very clear and makes it very clear that there is no need for any idle speculation.

Fred - sorry - I misunderstood - all this jargon - as Bos said its 20% on SEO and on most AIM and small caps. I think that is pretty common.

Cheers

Baza

A bit more on the Nature works linkup - looks like they have been working with WM for over 12 months before introducing it - I hope it does not take that lomg for SEO to get on board.

Courtesy of PM

"Warehouse Club's Fresh Produce Packaging to be Made From NatureWorks PLA
Starting November 2005

PHILADELPHIA, Oct. 21 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- At the 2005 Sustainable
Packaging Forum, NatureWorks LLC and SAM'S CLUB, a division of Wal-Mart
Stores, Inc. (NYSE: WMT), co-presented the results of a year-long program to
introduce the use of NatureWorks PLA (R) in fresh cut produce packaging at
SAM'S CLUB and Wal-Mart Super Centers. The clear, thermoformed packaging will
begin to appear in stores nationwide beginning in November 2005, starting with
fresh cut fruit, herbs, strawberries and Brussels sprouts.
After a year of research and test marketing, replacing conventional
packaging with NatureWorks PLA for just four items, it would translate to more
than 100 million containers per year for Wal-Mart Stores Inc. "With this
change to packaging made from corn we will save the equivalent of 800,000
gallons of gasoline and reduce more than 11 million lbs. of green house gas
emissions from polluting our environment," said Matt Kistler, vice president
product development and private brands SAM'S CLUB. NatureWorks PLA and its
ability to provide a price stable product as the price of oil needed to
produce conventional packaging keeps climbing higher and higher is attractive
to all clients.
Made from Midwestern field corn, NatureWorks PLA is a bio-based plastic
that can be used in a wide range of packaging applications from clear food
containers to beverage bottles. The material provides the convenience, look,
feel and performance of petroleum-based plastic packaging -- while being made
from a 100 percent annually renewable natural resource.
"We have worked hand-in-hand with SAM'S CLUB and Wal-Mart to demonstrate
NatureWorks PLA packaging is not only a more sustainable alternative that
consumers desire, but also a sound financial move in this era of unpredictable
oil prices," said Dennis McGrew, vice president and chief marketing officer of
NatureWorks LLC. "The cost of our raw material, essentially corn, has
remained stable for decades, while oil and natural gas -- which is what the
majority of existing plastics are made from -- has been on a roller coaster
ride that has made it difficult for companies to forecast their packaging
costs."

A Natural Evolution
The relationship between Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. and NatureWorks began in
the fall of 2004. Wal-Mart will be replacing existing packaging with
NatureWorks PLA products in a series of phases through the supply chain.
Phase One will roll out the first week in November 2005 with four products in
the fresh produce aisle. Phase Two includes approximately eight million more
packaging items with cut vegetable containers. Phase Three, just in time for
the Holidays, will be new NatureWorks PLA gift cards. The final phase
scheduled for 2005 will include bread bags, donut boxes and select tomato
packaging.

How to Make Plastic from Corn
The technology to produce NatureWorks PLA essentially harvests the starch
stored in corn into natural plant sugars. The sugar is then fermented into
lactic acid, which is used to create a clear plastic called polylactide (PLA)
that can be shaped into a variety of bottles, containers, trays, film and
other packaging.
In addition to the appeal of its more sustainable source, NatureWorks PLA
packaging has the flexibility to be disposed of in several manners, including
recycling and industrial composting, and fits most local waste disposal
schemes. The material has been successfully commercially composted in
applications where that disposal method is desired and commercial composting
infrastructure is in place, and it has been reviewed by the Biodegradable
Products Institute (BPI) and is listed as positive for compostable materials.
The multiple disposal alternatives of NatureWorks PLA means it can play a key
role in landfill diversion.
NatureWorks PLA offers many other environmentally preferred benefits.
From cradle to resin, its production uses 68 percent less fossil fuel
resources than traditional plastics and it is the world's first greenhouse-
gas-neutral polymer. "

Baza

Although not a great charts fan, for the best reason ( i have little understanding of them, but I am attempting to increase my knowledge base ) i do agree they can be a useful tool in investing. As for SEO I think that charting is good for reading the potential ups/downs as long as there is no or very little news. Blue sky type shares such as SEO or PET are far more reliant on news that if/when the all important RNS is released the Sp will rocket sky wards no matter what the charts say.
Patience is a virtue, and I have just opened another packet, its amazing what they sell in supermarkets now days. If only it came RF sealed and Starpol wrapped.

i assume with the year end being 31st october , 10 days away, we will get a trading update on greenseal, and any other european and north american progress. So if there are no rns' in the next 9 days then there will definately be a trading update the day after. and no doubt we will see another speculative rise to the 18p mark in anticipation of news.

......with the NW corn-based plastic only being "industrially" compostable......
the only real benefit is that the oil-requirement is cut down, and therefore it is cheaper to make.....because a consumer cannot simply throw it into his/her own compost (in the backyard), it needs to be collected and taken/sent to where it gets "industrially" composted......
which leads me to wonder if people are actually going to bother collecting their "NatureWorks" plastic AND separating it from all the other existing plastics that they come across in their daily routine life.....

- what effect does any existing GM-agent within the decomposed plastic do to the environment that it ends up in ?? particularly if these sites for the composting action are in GM-free parts of the world. (i mention the GM part, as some of the original corn may be genetically mutilated stuff). A lot of this stuff will probably just end up in the normal tip - so the biodegradable part doesn't seem to really be part of the Sell.......i lived in the UK for 5 out of the past 7 years and i didn't see much recycling.....I have seen a better attempt at it in other countries on the continent, with Germany probably the best - so it will still come down to the attitude of the consumer, as to whether this plastic goes back to getting composted or not.......anyone know how good the yanks are at it ??

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"Hi there all, been in this stock for a few months. Working in the retail packing industry as a maintenance manager for for one off ASDA/Wal*Marts suppliers for Red meat and Pork products, we are one of 3 companies that ASDA use to supply these products in the UK. Just to let you know a bit about the company we have with in the last year opened a new plant at a cost of 32 millon which basically went ahead due to the agrement with ASDA to go to just 3 suppliers, at the present time we are doing any where from 500 to 650 tones of finished product for ASDA a week, over 12 production lines.
I was up at ASDA house a couple of times over the last few weeks on on labelling issues, where i was hoping to pick up a bit of information on any future developments with the packaging we use, but unfortunatly did not here any thing. We have a few visits this coming week from technical people and the new incoming head meat buyer for ASDA. Which i will keep my ear to ground on to see if i here of any proposed changes from the packaging/sealing systems we are currently using. I know from varoius meetings we have in house that ASDA are allways looking in to ways that we thier suppliers can reduce costs and with the high oil price we have at the moment and the effect that has on the cost of the PVC/PE films at the present this could be one area where savings could be made. Also product shelf life would be a huge advantge to them if it could be increased. I work closely with the packaging buyer on the site i work and have asked him to keep me up to date of any new and coming projects he heres of. Thats all for now, hopefully be back some time with some good news for us investors, i am sure long term this will be a winner just a case of playing the waiting game. "

so basically this guy is saying that he works in one of the three meat and pork suppliers to asda covering the whole of the uk and there hasn't been a single greenseal conversion where he works.!!!!

Agree with Bosley, that doesn't sound like the news, or lack of it, that I want to hear. If they have spent all that dough on building such a modern plant you'd have thought that it would have incorporated all the latest packaging gear. Another question for Howard White?

You'd have thought they'd have employed a Maintenance Manager who could spell too. Come come now, are we actually saying we think that is genuine?? I wouldn't insult Howard's intelligence. I, for one as a shareholder would hope he had better things to do than answer petty questions like that.

I asked Northern Foods whether they were using Greenseal and they said thatb they were not. This chap could be working for NF - I will try and find out - and if you remember NF was not on SEO's hit list

Baza

Biscuit, There are loads of other people who are in much more exalted positions who not only cannot spell but have no knowledge of English grammar. That doesn't mean that they do not do competently what they are paid to do. However, I am curious as to whether or not that post was genuine; integrity does not seem to be as concistent a quality on BB's as we would all like it to be.

Yes, Biscuit. ass maani ol timers will now, speling and punktation is somefink we shud not diskus ere. We shud djust be concistent...

Sory...