Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Why obama really wants Britain to stay in EU ,to impose TTIP on Europe says NGO . US president is really in the UK to impose the " toxic " Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership on Britain a move that will allow US firms to demolish the state health system and more besides , War on Want warns .

Fred i doubt i'm jealous of anyone who you hero worship.

When you off then JB?

War on Want said the deal is meeting with widespread resistance across the continent , with the French threatening to terminate talks and puplic approval plummeting in Germany . TTIP is a an unpopular and anti - democratic stitch up said WOW senior trade campaingner Mark Dearn " If Pres Obama truly believes in democracy he should forget about forcing this dodgy deal on the people of Europe " Beware the wolf in sheeps clothing .I say .

Stan you would go much before me as you HATE anything British ,although i doubt you have any connections abroad ,just stick to you little world up Fred's skirt .

See what your mate obama really wants Freda and Haystack .

Never mind all that lot jimmy see what really goes on behind your back . ALL Daves mates only want us in EU for what they can get out of it themselves .

Never mind your usual response JB.. just answer the question.

Where's Freda , hiding are you or trying to make up some fluffy crap wriggling out of stuff that satisfies your ego another time .

I doubt that Obama has any ulterior motives regarding TTIP. He is only in office for a few months. The fight against TTIP here comes from the hard left and activists.

not sure you're right hays
from the little i have read about it, TTIP does not sound good news at all for any except the multinationals
it's almost a racing certainty that any trade deal that US is trying to push through is primarily for the benefit of their largest corporations rather than the general good

Well a few backhanders will come in handy when he 's struggling to pay the rent .

Would you like some of my friends Fred and Stan ,their very good.

Dear Friend,

We send £350 million a week to the EU – enough to build a new hospital a week
250,000 EU migrants a year come to the UK – it’s out of control and damages the NHS
It’s safer to take back control and spend our money on our priorities

Imagine if we Vote Leave in 60 days’ time… We can help protect patients by ensuring that we can check the qualifications of doctors coming from the EU.
BBC: The Great Debate - On 21 June, the BBC will be holding a televised EU debate at the Wembley Arena. The event will feature senior representatives from Vote Leave and the IN campaign. To reserve your place click here.

Vote Leave to save our NHS
Today we launched our latest campaign advert which warns of the dangers to the NHS of voting to stay in the EU. We send £350 million to the EU every week, money which would be much better spent on our priorities like the NHS.

Our public services are already under huge pressure from uncontrolled migration. As Michael Gove wrote in the Times today, this will only get worse as countries such as Turkey, Macedonia and Albania join the EU. The Justice Secretary states that ‘we cannot guarantee the same access people currently enjoy to healthcare and housing if these trends continue’.
The only way to take back control of our borders and ease the pressure on our NHS and public services is to Vote Leave on 23 June.

Theresa May admits we can’t control migration whilst inside EU
The Home Secretary Theresa May said yesterday that free movement within the EU makes it harder to control immigration. She admitted that EU membership makes this impossible and that David Cameron has failed to bring any powers back from the EU to change that.
More than a quarter of a million people came to the UK from the EU over the last twelve months – a city the size of Newcastle – which adds to the pressures on our NHS and other public services. After we Vote Leave we can create a fairer immigration policy which welcomes in the brightest and best from around the world, whilst easing the strain on our public services. Let’s take back control on 23 June.

UK in a strong position to strike a US trade deal
President Obama rounded off his trip to back the David Cameron’s IN campaign by warning that any UK/US trade deal could take up to a decade to complete. However, the evidence suggests otherwise.
The US signed major free trade agreements with Canada and Australia in under 2 years. Conversely, we have been a member of the EU for over 40 years yet Brussels has failed to strike a deal with the US. Further, the US has signed bilateral agreements with 20 countries - all with smaller economies than the UK’s - which contradicts Obama’s claim that they are only looking to deal with trading blocs.
The UK is a major export market for the US, with nearly $120 billion of American goods and services entering the UK market. As the fifth largest economy in the world, we are in a strong position to negotiate a deal to benefit both UK and US businesses after we Vote Leave on 23 June.

NHS
a slight tangent ......
the gov't claims that BMA is using the threat of the doctors' strike as a direct political assault
i think may be some truth in this, as certainly the BMA is left wing and militant

The UK is 5.6% of the EU area and has 12.6% of the EU population, based on 2013 figures
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Denmark should consider a referendom on it's relation's with the EU , a key ally of the minority government said on Monday .

Alf being Alf again.. you really should not rely on the usual Murdoch propaganda machine to influence your thinking.

VIC i'll post this again Austria have had enough !!


Austria have had enough !!! Merkel may have broken up Europe on her own .


Austria election: Far-right tops first round of presidential vote

Austria's far-right Freedom Party candidate has come top in the first round of presidential elections, preliminary results show.
Norbert Hofer has about 36% of the votes for the mostly ceremonial role - not enough to avoid a run-off in May.
He is likely to face Alexander Van der Bellen, an independent contender backed by the Greens, who is polling 20%.
For the first time since World War Two, the candidates from Austria's two main parties did not make it to the run-off.
Rudolf Hundstorfer from the Social Democrats and the centre-right People's Party Andreas Kohl are each thought to have taken about 11% of the vote.
Both parties have governed Austria for decades - either alone or in coalition.
This is a big shake-up in Austrian politics, the BBC's Bethany Bell in Vienna reports, as the country has had a president from the centre-left or centre-right since 1945.
The clear victory of the far-right candidate reflects widespread discontent with the status quo, as well as concerns about immigration and the economy, our correspondent says.
Support for the Social Democrats and the People's Party has been falling in recent years.
In the last general elections in 2013, the two parties won just enough votes to govern in a "grand coalition"

Sounds like the looney right and neo-fascist are fighting in Austria as well as in the UK.
They should join up with UKIP and the BNP and Right wing tories.

But it is a bit like Dumbo, Huff, and Puff.