Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dominic Grieve?

Cyners seems to have overlooked my comment about his constituency in post 11960. I'm sure it was a simple oversight, so I'll repost it.

Cyners,

You keep saying that Grieve's constituents voted to leave, but I don't know where you get that from. According to Wikipedia (link here), in Grieve's constituency the vote was very even - 50.8% to remain versus 49.2% to leave. How exactly is he not now representing the wishes of his constituents?

Dominic Grieve strikes me as one of the few honest tory MPs in the HP at the moment.

Barclays jumping ship.

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Dumber and Dumber,

With a little help, you may be able to understand this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47053616

Scargill was a key factor in the fall of the Heath government. Thatcher knew that Scargill would try and bring down a new Conservative government. Scargill called a strike then refused to call a national ballot. He saw the strike as a class struggle and wouldn't tolerate a Conservative government. The net result was a reduction of the power of unions across the board.

Fred, It makes me chuckle when you repeat what they say about moving billions of pounds - They move nothing bar from one ledger to another - pure move of numbers and only the number of jobs they wish to create to make a statement and put staff in fear of their jobs, to keep workers pay in check I expect, while the bosses get a bigger bonus again as they increase their rewards.

Its about Money not Brexit

Its about Money not Brexit

Follow the money!

Movement of money.

A little like Bitcoin.

But in this case, perhaps wanting to remain in the Eurozone and economic longterm expectancy.

Tupperware down 30% today

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/m/cc14167a-e53e-3f95-85a4-edb8cf53064b/ss_%5B%24%24%5D-tupperware-slides-as.html

We never hear you Fred or anyone else here, calling to join the Eurozone but surely remainers should be keen on that as well as staying cuffed and bound and weighed down, hook line and sinker to the EU.

Did you also notice that it was stated:

"few jobs in London are expected to be affected."

If Labour had backed TM saying No Deal had to remain on the table the EU would not be playing games now but they will soon find out that they are looking down the barrel of TM gun, and unsure if lead and powder is loaded, and fearing she will pull the trigger like MT would have done.

Fred , Covney should go crying to the EU not us as it's them holding up a deal.

And he's only saying it to try and cover the Irish guys arse who last week stated Ireland would not put up hard borders whatever happens.

CT.

I would have preferred to be in the Eurozone but accepted we weren't.

The exchange "artists" have made a bomb by pressing buttons.

"few jobs in London are expected to be affected."

What is happening to property prices and why?

The EU negotiators have been playing politics all their lives, do you think T Maybe's bluffing and other "exiters" huffing and puffing would sway them.

More likely irritates them, at the moment they are being polite.

Some Brexiters have watched too many American gangster films.

So Fred what is happening to property prices in the UK?

House prices
UK house price growth stagnates on back of Brexit concerns


https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/jan/31/uk-house-price-growth-stagnates-on-back-of-brexit-concerns

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/jan/21/up-to-25-per-cent-wiped-off-house-prices-some-of-uk-wealthiest-areas-brexit

So what is your view on the slowing of the housing market - a good thing or bad thing Fred?

Never happened before Brexit did it Fred ?

I read there was going to be an almighty house price crash on the 24th June 2016 if we voted leave.

It was probably Carney or the IMF who predicted it.

We did think last year about selling our flat in Kensington, and we had an agent go round. He basically said that stuff was taking much longer to shift since the referendum because the overseas buyers had dried up with Brexit uncertainty. For a sale, he reckoned it would go for about 20% less than it would have 18 months earlier.

Dil, talking to someone today and they reminded me that considering the vast amount of investment Wales have benefited from since their membership of Europe only a fool would vote to come out.

This excepting that the a Conservative Government would get nowhere near that level of investment in the Welsh infrastructure.

So why on earth did you vote out?

Investment ???

Don't fecking start me off !

Got a bloody road not far from me with a sign on it saying paid for by the EU. It was not bloody paid for by the EU as we sent them twice as much as we get back so the sign should read paid for by the UK twice over.

Wales has lost thousands upon thousands of jobs to low cost east European countries as our hands are tied when it comes to helping our own firms.

Stuff their investment , name one thing it has paid for that we wouldn't have paid for ourselves anyway.

That's right, Stan.

I read a few weeks back that both Wales and Cornwall have received around 1,000 euros per head of population to fund regional economic growth. I think those were the two highest benefiting regions of the UK.

But therein lies the whole problem with Brexit. So many leave voters were just unhappy with life in general - lack of jobs, lack of opportunity, a general feeling that they were being ignored and that life was passing them by. Vote Leave harnessed that frustration and anger, and conned them into thinking that they'd be taking back control of their lives if the left the EU.

Well who the feck did they give my 1k too cos I haven't had it !