Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

401 MP's represent LEAVE voting constituencies, that's 63% of all MP's.

498 MP's voted for Article 50 with 114 against.

If you are so confident you will prove you are right by putting it to another INFORMED referendum.

Why make such a fuss if you believe you will win!

if what you (fred) say is such an obvious and empirical truth, why is the country, the labour party, the tory party and all others in between still so divided?


answer - because it is not

Look chubby cheeks and his little helper want an informal referendum and the deal is when we are even more informal we can have another one and so ad infinitum

#LedByDonkeys

nobody has denied that she was a remainer, but unlike some, she was elected to fight for what the country voted, and that she has done

many may not like the deal she managed to negotiate;
some of the more gormless splutter that they could have negotiated a much better and tougher deal in half the time;
some others, even more gormless, claim the eu would allow uk to stay within the market and customs union and everything else but still to escape the bits the uk populace does not like at all

I sometimes think that you don't get it, Cyners.

Those billboards have started appearing today in Mansfield alongside other billboards saying that Aaron Banks is a tosser (maybe not those exact words). You won't ever get to see them in Grieve's constituency, as that voted to remain and you don't fit the target demographic.

In case you don't know, Mansfield is one of the constituencies with a large Brexit voting electorate (70% vs 30%). They didn't vote for Brexit because they hate Europe as such - most of the people have never been anywhere need mainland Europe (them Germans talk funny, and don't eat fish'n'chips) - but rather for a whole load of other reasons such as lack of opportunity, lack of employment, shit weather, and life generally passing them by. Those were the neglected minority without a voice who Dominic Cummings tapped into with the promise that they'd get their life back after leaving the EU (even if the EU hadn't actually done them any wrong).

In just the same way as Cummings tapped into those good folks back in 2016, this is Soros' money going into a way of redressing the balance.

Who knows whether the strategy will work? It depends on external factors. But it'll be interesting to watch!

Yes stay in Europe Mansfield and life will be like this.

Martini,

If you need to get a message across to the good folks of Mansfield, it's no good posting it on here - most of them won't have computers.

Get somebody to print you up some posters and rent a billboard outside the benefits office!

Yes one poor sod from Mansfield did get to France to sample the good life.

Bravo. At least the French have shown charity and given him one good leg.

Hopefully the NHS will be able to get the other one fixed once he gets home. That's assuming Carillion ever managed to get the local hospital finished.

According to his back story he was able bodied when he arrived but a hotel room for a night in Paris cost him an arm and a leg, so he is now trying to beg the money to get back home.

A tail of our times for many expats I am led to believe.

I fear you're right about the high cost of living for expats in Europe, Martini. So many of them rely upon their UK pensions to provide a decent standard of living, and the weaker pound in their pocket, coupled with their resentment of being used as pawns and ineptitude of your useless government in negotiating a deal, now means that they're having to reconsider their position and return to the UK.

I do hope that your government can afford to support them upon their return once the tax income from legitimate immigrants diminishes now they're no longer wanted.

But hey, if you can still afford to visit Europe post-Brexit, you'll always be welcome chez moi. Seriously, there's so much more to life here than an early evening game of petanque over a pastis. Why don't you visit before the spring, and I'll enjoy taking you on a short afternoon trip down La Chavanette? I promise it won't take me long, but I suggest you make sure your insurance is up to date.

Hilary.

Sadly they won't even give me a quote for insurance, so I have to rely on my own reserves and hope if anything goes wrong it is either minor or fatal.

We are off to Cyprus for a couple of weeks in March returning on the 16th.

What shocked me was not the price of the hotel which is about the same as last year but the flight which is double what I was expecting. Are they profiteering on a run on flights to the UK at that time?

But we have been thinking about doing another European Road trip 4/5000 miles later in the year. So assuming the £ is worth anything by then I may take you up on your offer.

M

Mansfield ?????£

Lol no wonder you left and to think of the crap I've put up off you for living in Wales !!!

At least Stan supports his local team even though they are crap !

Ffs Mansfield , lol.

Well done , Hils they'll probably put a statue up in your honour.

And don't try telling me your name is Jane ... Tarzan said he's never heard of you.

7 weeks tonight .... freedom.

Calling all Moggy fans:

https://www.facebook.com/365076723656400/posts/1364202060410523/

boules to you hilary :-)

48 days ago was Christmas Eve and in 48 days time we leave.

Really isn't long now , maybe the EU will get its act together this week and come up with a decent compromise (unlike Corby).

What will be will be.