Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Martini,

For me, the behaviour is still analogous whether you can or are unable to recognise it to be so.

Hils , really can't see it happening as it could cause more problems than it solves not least of all giving credibility to the SNPs call for a second independence vote.

Fred , we are not destroying our relationship with the EU we are renegotiating the terms of the relationship.

Perhaps, you are right.

8-)

Talking about a hard border : how about the chimps that escaped from Belfast zoo ? using storm debris....aren't they clever monkeys ?....(that was part one....)……(part two : the irish ones went back in as they would miss tea-time)…….

Very good RF, except that it should have been posted on the joke thread as well...just where all the other Brexit jokes and Brexit joke posters should be )-:

Cheers Stan....perhaps I should have put : Brexitea-time.....(;))…..

One of the ideas in this weekend's press was that, assuming no movement had been made on the current deal, a motion might be moved whereby Parliament would approve May's current deal on the condition that it was subject to a binary referendum with the question 'Should Parliament accept May's deal or stay in the EU?'. To hold the referendum a short extension of Article 50 would be required. Apparently there's cross-party support for it in Parliament as it appeases leavers and remainers and breaks the impasse.

Nobody knows whether a motion like that would have any mileage, but if it did and there was a new referendum, I'm curious how the likes of BoJo would vote given their public denouncement of the current deal, and how it was supposedly worse than staying in the EU. I'd also be interested to know of anybody here who previously voted to leave who would either not vote or now vote to remain given the choice above.

Are you asking the lemmings, like Dil, It, Marti and Georgi, if they are changing direction?

Hardly lemmings Fred. At the time, the odds were on stick-in-the-muds wanting to stay in their comfort zone. The people who voted leave made up their own minds in the face of the full propaganda machine from the government. We will not change direction. We had the vote, we voted, you didn't, end of.

No Fred, I don't expect people to change their mind. It's possible, however, that some might abstain for any one of a number of reasons.

Well Fred' that's one Muppet's view, now what about the others?

Stan,

What do you expect from the "Up and at 'em brigade"?

But, they are so sure that the public who are now more aware of the consequences of Brexit that they are too fright to hold an informed referendum.

They are soooo democratic.

Very true.

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s economy slowed as expected in the final three months of last year, pushing growth in 2018 to its weakest in six years, as Brexit worries hammered investment, official figures showed on Monday.

insofar as i have understood even some of the ramifications, i would certainly accept TM's deal in such a scenario

There will not be another referendum. Period. Pipes dreams of the losers. Loosers to the thick one.

That's not a lot coming from you Alf is it, and what about the "Brexit worries hammered investment"?

"Period"? that's American English and you go on about spelling and Gramma...You Muppet.

Come on Alf, answer the question -):

i answered the original question asked

businesses are more worried by the thought of an "up the drawbridge" exit, than the soft exit proposed by TM
also, neither business nor the markets like uncertainty

meanwhile, economic activity is low not just because of brexit uncertainty, but also because the eurozone economies are in a parlous state, china's economy is comparatively weak, and the harm done by the trade war with america cannot be underestimated