for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

seq, why do you think sportech is worth backing?

According to todays Shares Mag the filters could be worth 100 million...and the first stage of the negotiations are expected to be completed by next Easter

But that the ASDA contract is running 3-4 months behind schedule due to a shortage of 2nd had Mulitvacs to lend people whilst the changes take place

Baza

glad you liked the SFTDs ;) - have to add some humour - in it all -


stegrego - i said the StarchFillturds was just to let the media do some blatent ramping - and ramping they are starting with SM and possibly TB tonight - the statement the filter could be worth 0 million - yes zero - is more possible - the words "could be" are as useful as "ultimately" by HW - meaning no use at all - just spin and hype to pump the price IMO -

i would disagree over the comment of not enough donor machines for GS conversions - that is the cover for the delay - it is more sinister and serious IMO - but

i am expecting some pumping to be done to 16p by certain media and posters on BBs and then some dumping back down to knock on the lower supports again - SEO - pump and dump short term traders stocks now - if the pumpers get on a roll - they could go for a pumped 16.5p before going short -

All IMO - DYOR !


Stegrego - 10 Nov'05 - 00:13 - 53941 of 53941

Ok... according to todays Shares Mag ....

Filter could be worth 100 million...

But that the ASDA contract is running 3-4 months behind schedule due to a shortage of 2nd had Mulitvacs to lend people whilst the changes take place....

Also that rumour has it that the Starpol / Greenseal trials arent going that well and will be 'disappointing tho not disasterous'

Hmm more bloody food for II methinks :(

blinger,

Re your post that you do not comment on RNS,s. Your post was not that clear to me, but if i have blamed you in error then I apologise. Whilst I disagree with most of your posts, I for one do not find that a reason for squelching. I read all none abusive post then make up my own mind as I hope we all do.

It also mentions that there are probs with Greenseal and Starpol. Me thinks that someone is spinning a story to suit some big investors to get in lower. Contrary, I heard a rumour that the Starpol trial was going much better than expected!! But then again like Share mag, all gossip.

K

Morning all,
I've given up trying to call it day by day because all these smaller stocks are so bloody contrary you don't know whats going to happen.
My preference is for a very gentle, un-hyped climb. But lets see how the day unfolds.
Alan

From Paul

November 09, 2005 04:14 PM US Eastern Timezone

Clean and Green - a Better Cigarette Filter is Near; Starch-based filter from Stanelco reduces cancer risk and environmental impact

ORLANDO, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 9, 2005--Cigarette filters could soon be made of starch according to research at Biotec, a joint-owned subsidiary of Stanelco (LSE:SEO) and SP Metal. Starch is a natural compound found in organic products such as potatoes and rice, meaning smokers would not have to worry that fibers from the current filters, made of cellulose acetate, are entering their bodies. Similar good news is that starch-based filters are biodegradable and compostable, dramatically lowering their impact on the environment.


Filters are primarily designed to reduce the tar in tobacco smoke and to stop tobacco flakes from entering the mouths of smokers. They typically each contain around 12,000 fibers of cellulose acetate, a synthetic fiber of which more than 680,000 tons are used in cigarettes each year. Medical studies have observed these fibers in the lungs of smokers and that they not only resist biodegrading, but that they remain coated in tobacco tar, which contains carcinogens. Medical researchers are presently trying to define the risk that this poses to smokers.

Stanelco, the company that holds the global patents to the starch material used for the filter tow (application EP0861036-A1) and its use as a cigarette filter (EP1567025-A), is currently in discussions with cigarette manufacturers in Europe, America and Asia about the replacement of cellulose acetate based filters. Starch-based filter tow is also substantially cheaper (30-50% at current bulk prices) than that based on cellulose acetate.

The filters are just one of a range of innovative starch-based solutions from Stanelco that will reduce the use of plastic and other synthetic substances, so dramatically reducing the environmental impact. Starch is a natural substance, and even when used in products such as food packaging or cigarette filters is still fully compostable.

Howard White, Group Managing Director, and President, Stanelco Inc., commented, "It is deeply ironic that most smokers believe that filters improve their safety. There is increasing evidence that this may not be the case. We believe filters made from starch-based materials will be better for smokers and better for the environment. While smokers are aware of the risks of inhaling tobacco smoke, there are very few who understand the risks of using the current filters."

"Also, filters all too often end up being dropped on the ground or at the roadside, and even when properly disposed of take many years to decompose. Our starch-based filters will fully compost in as little as 60 days, with no negative effects on either soil or water supply.

"Given the very real benefits they offer, together with the fact that starch-based filter tow is cheaper than cellulose acetate, there is a real opportunity to further reduce the impact of smoking. As the cigarette makers know, there is no safe cigarette, but that does not mean that they should not be cleaner and greener.

"Stanelco specializes in starch-based products that are designed and manufactured to minimize the environmental impact of modern life. As a company, we take pride in our green credentials and an ethical outlook. It is widely accepted that smoking cigarettes damages health, but we believe that while it is legal, it is right to minimize the negative effects wherever possible. We do not promote smoking, which is why we plan to divest ourselves of this product."

Stanelco intends to divest the filter tow technology to focus on its starch businesses, including Starpol 2000(TM) and GREENSEAL(TM) biodegradable packaging, which are just being introduced across a wide range of product packaging in U.S. and British supermarkets.

"We are excited at the recent announcement by BAT regarding safer cigarettes. Our product has all the advantages the cigarette industry is looking for including being ecologically friendly and less expensive than currently used celluloid filters," said Stephanie Morgan-Fisher, director and CEO of North American Operations, Stanelco, Inc. "Stanelco endeavors to use our technology to benefit consumers and corporations looking for ecologically friendly solutions."

In May 2005, Stanelco opened an office in Orlando, Fla. to sell and distribute these starch-based materials to the North American market.

-- More than 90% of the cigarettes sold worldwide have a filter.

-- Virtually all filters consist of a rod of numerous (greater than 12,000) plastic-like cellulose acetate fibers. Fragments of cellulose acetate that form the mouthpiece of a filter rod become separated from the filter at the end phase during the manufacturing process.

-- The cut surface of the filter of virtually all cigarettes has these fragments. When smoking a cigarette, some of these fragments are released during inhalation.

-- Tests in the USA on 12 popular brands show that fibers are inhaled and also ingested.

-- Laser scanning has found filter fibers in the lung tissue of patients with lung cancer.

-- Cellulose Acetate filter tow has a wholesale price of US $4,000 per ton, substantially higher than starch-based filter tow.

So cheaper than present filters, more enviromentaly friendly, and more important probably healthier. The first company that takes this on board will have a lead in the market. As with most auctions the price of its worth will be the price the highest bidder is prepared to pay. Yet again this whole deal is looking like a good play by SEO management, but only time will tell.

wow!! 100 million!!! and the sp doesn't move!!! what bollocks!! where do people get these figures from? something is only worth what another party is prepared to pay. i really hope seo get such a high figure, but looking at the market reaction, you have to say the market doesn't think so. could this be the lack of success regarding greenseal conversions affecting seo's credibility?

Bos - I just think that there are too many imponderables at the moment.

1. Earliest likelihood of a deal would be Easter - but probably later
2. Still requires 12 months time and money to develope it to see if it works
3. The winning bidder can still walk away if not commercially viable

So absolutely no guarantee of anything at all

However - come next spring we may have a contract - or not - thats when the sp will react - but it will still be another 12 - 18 months after that before we know if we have a winner or not. So good pipeline stuff - but imho - no present day value

also in shares mag"likely to cause a stink in portfolios as share price drops after director sells,due to delays in implementing greenseal"

All rumours Harwood, just rumours. I refer folk back to the RNS of October 12th where even Tony Ruane of ASDA stated that the 200 machines are on course. If those 2 articles are proved to be untrue, my subscription to Shares Mag is seriously in jeapardy.

I would wait for the close statement being prepared by EVO before making any hasty decisions.

This company has just got so many patents that it has not even started to look at yet - as well as the products that it is in the process of developing - Cigarrette filters being but one - I wonder what else it has that we just do not know about.

What is really annoying is that Shares creates hype by not putting out the full story - as has already been documented to death on this thread is that the director sold options so that he could actually BUY shares in the company - the net effect being an investment by the director concerned.

Baza

Exactly Baza, If Shares Magazine is just interested in spreading rumours, I can get them for free from many a BB.

just read the articles in shares mag. when the writer says, "word on the street", surely he is talking about bulletin boards. why on earth would shares mag print warnings about not believing everything you read on bbs, ( as they have in earlier issues), and then peddle rumours themselves?
i do agree with the writer's comment re. the director sell. whichever way you look at it , it stinks. selling half to buy the other half? why not show us all how much he believes in this company and stump up his own money to buy the lot. think of the buzz that would create with trial results due.

Large Buys going in after hours.

....and the enquiry from the FSA who would want to know if he knew the results before he purchased

Biscuit - I expect it is the director buying his shares back !!!!

Two points which do not seem to feature in the assessment of SEO and its path to glory.

"Terry Robins has been appointed Chief Operating Officer with a specific remit to assist the group in achieving final commercialisation of its tray-lidding and thermoformingproduct suite. Terry spent over 30 years working for J. Sainsbury plc, latterly as Packaging Innovations Manager"

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"Stanelco plc, the RF applications Group, is delighted to announce the
appointment of Martin Wagner as Commercial Director of Stanelco RF Technologies
Ltd with a remit to assist in the commercialisation of Stanelco's food packaging
technologies including GREENSEAL and Starpol 2000.

Martin was previously Head of Packaging Development at ASDA Stores Limited where he has spent the last 5 years heading up a number of different commercial teams delivering both significant savings to the business and leading ground breaking strategic initiatives, and was directly involved in ASDA's adoption of the
GREENSEAL technology project. Martin brings to Stanelco his experience of
working directly in the food and beverage supply industry as well as the
healthcare and pharmaceutical industries at director level."
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Would these guys have moved from major companies if they did not feel there was a future with SEO ?. I think not.

The other point is Biotec.

This company cost the partners $ 26m dollars. at 1.77 dollars to the pound this equates to a cost 14.7m. I think we may be a little ( or a lot ) carried away with 100m, but at 30m we are "quids in" considering the residue after filter sale.

To the long term holders, keep the faith, to the shorters keep on your toes, they may be trodden on soon.


Predateur

Evening all.

To add to the comments above from predateur the following extract from an e-mail I received from PM1

"After several enquiries about the Shares Mag dodgy reporting on Stanelco today, based on 'rumours', I passed the details to Howard, his reply was, and I quote ....

"It is bullshit that there are any major problems with Greenseal, it is progressing well"

I can only summise that Shares mag got their 'rumours' from the bashers on the MAM and AVDFN BB's.

Cheers,

Paul"

The oily one