chartist2004
- 15 Apr 2004 12:02
The tiny Irish stock on the brink of landing 'the first' post-sanction oil deal in Iraq. Ref 'Fleet Street Letter' 12-04-04..
Tokyo
- 29 Nov 2004 15:53
- 1329 of 2700
It was actually a friend (who normally gives me pretty good tips) bringing it to my attention @ about 27pence, I rushed off and did some research and it looked like a gamble that could pay off, I was at first a little worried about the size of the company, but my friends tips had always been pretty good, my research took a couple of days, then I saw Chartist's thread and decided to take another look and I didn't get in until 31 pence, but that 4 pence hardly seems to matter now.
gra1969
- 29 Nov 2004 15:57
- 1330 of 2700
Tokyo! im in til the end! Gone too far and too long to let a few days(i hope) make me sell. Could nt live with myself if i woke up to see a substantially higher opening price on the back of an after hours RNS!
dexter01
- 29 Nov 2004 16:00
- 1331 of 2700
tokyo,
do you get the daily e-mail tips from uk analyst, it`s free and in the past they`ve had some good tips........and some not so good!!,but every little helps , even if to point you in a certain direction,
dexter
Sabine45
- 29 Nov 2004 16:03
- 1332 of 2700
Tokyo,
I'm staying in too.
Couldn't bear to lose out now, just because of nerves.
We just have to sit tight and wait.....
Sabine
EWRobson
- 29 Nov 2004 16:07
- 1333 of 2700
Tokyo and dexter.
You two are still doing a great job despite the fact that you were in relatively early. I really listen to the golden silence! There is only one reason for silence from PET and that is that they are doing the bidding of the IOM. It doesn't mean its cut and dried because the IOM could be having problems of their own: justifying their selection? coping with today's problems? not happy with some aspect(s) of the bid? last minute temptations from an oil major? As I see it, we are still on an 80% probability of a super outcome but we all know things can go belly up in that sort of situation. It has to be seen as risk part of your portfolio. It must not be curtains for me and my future as an investor if its curtains for the contract. If anyone is over-exposed, then I would suggest cutting the holding to an amount you can cope with. That is just common sense.
Eric
dexter01
- 29 Nov 2004 16:13
- 1334 of 2700
good post eric,
thanks for your kind words,
at least being in early, it gives you a bit of a cushion if it did all go belly up..... not tha it will !!!.
dexter
gra1969
- 29 Nov 2004 16:15
- 1335 of 2700
i am in a position where i am able to have my pc on all day at work with money am and my on-line brokerage side to side. Should anything dramatic happen i am able to react. i have sat and watched so many 'tree shakes' that i percieve today to be following suit. This is nervousness based on the fact tomorrow is the last day in November! i am not willing to lose on this stock nor am i going to get out before it all takes off! A fine line indeed!
foitek
- 29 Nov 2004 16:17
- 1336 of 2700
Perhaps the article implied that PET were making such statements *before* October, hence the price-rise back then. Not trying to de-ramp but...?
Tokyo
- 29 Nov 2004 16:19
- 1337 of 2700
Eric - I agree the silence is golden, Why be sworn to secrecy if there is no secret to be kept. We seen that they had to resubmit their tender after the talks in Jordan, so really we are waiting for the outcome, none of us know what they talked about, was it risk/sharing or was it the joining of companies to work on these projects? All we do know is that PET are very confident and are doing what the MOO has ordered them to, and keep quiet. Everything we have is pointing to a positive result, lets just hope it is so!!!
Tokyo
dexter01
- 29 Nov 2004 16:21
- 1338 of 2700
does anyone look at www.platts.com , it`s free to register and seems that it could be quite interesting. i`ve only just signed up so have`nt had chance to read too muc as yet.
typical tree shake, everyone hold on!, the MM`s want your stock.
dexter
gra1969
- 29 Nov 2004 16:25
- 1339 of 2700
gonna check that out now dexter
dexter01
- 29 Nov 2004 16:31
- 1340 of 2700
this is taken from platts, reading the figures it would be madness for the IOM to delay these or any other contracts. seeing as the contracts PET have gone for are some of the first, the sooner the oil flows, the sooner the majors will want a piece of the action, either with PET or in other areas of iraq.
The value of Iraq's own revenues
On the plus side, there is one prospective gain: high oil prices could bring increased oil revenues. This is a complex matter since the degree to which high oil prices are predicated on Iraqi instability is itself a major factor in determining the impact on Iraqi oil revenues. If the country is stable, it will contribute to a substantial lowering of oil prices, with an adverse impact on revenues; if it is unstable, prices may be high but it may not be able to get its oil to market. With uncertainty governing both the price that Iraqi oil might command and the amount of oil that it might be able to export, it makes sense to look at Iraqi oil exports revenue prospects in very broad terms.
In general, at oil prices of $35/bbl, Iraq stands to secure $1.067.5-bil in foreign exchange earnings every month for every 1-mil bbl of oil exported. At $30/bbl, it earns $915-mil/month; at $25/bbl, earnings slip to $762.5-bil/month; and at $20 it earns $610-mil.
Under current circumstances, with oil prices well above $35/bbl, with production capacity at around 2.4-mil b/d (actual oil production totaled 2.38-mil b/d in April) and with Iraq itself consuming some 600,000 b/d, Iraq might reasonably expect to secure around $1.92-bil in foreign exchange earnings in May. (Such figures only yield foreign exchange earnings, they do not take into account the costs of producing the oil or getting it to market).
Given that it may now no longer be possible to make even reasonable predictions concerning future Iraqi export levels, prospective annual Iraqi oil export earnings can best be indicated as follows.
Table: Indicative Iraqi Oil Export Earnings
For production levels of 2.5-mil b/d and export levels of 1.9-mil b/d:
At:
$20/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $13.9-bil.
$25/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $17.3-bil.
$30/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $20.8-bil.
$35/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $24.3-bil.
$40/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $27.7-bil.
For production levels of 3.0-mil b/d and export levels of 2.35-mil b/d:
At:
$20/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $17.2-bil.
$25/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $21.4-bil.
$30/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $25.7-bil.
$35/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $30.0-bil.
$40/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $34.3-bil.
For production levels of 3.5-mil b/d and export levels of 2.8-mil b/d:
At:
$20/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $20.4-bil.
$25/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $25.6-bil.
$30/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $30.7-bil.
$35/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $35.8-bil.
$40/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $40.9-bil.
For production levels of 4.0-mil b/d and export levels of 3.2-mil b/d:
At:
$20/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $23.4-bil.
$25/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $29.2-bil.
$30/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $35.0-bil.
$35/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $40.9-bil.
$40/bbl annual foreign exchange earnings would total $46.7-bil.
gra1969
- 29 Nov 2004 16:40
- 1341 of 2700
Beat me to it!!!!! funny how there are more Buys than Sells and the sp is still down. Then again this is only activity that the MM's have engineered imo.
seawallwalker
- 29 Nov 2004 17:42
- 1342 of 2700
Just in case it has not been said?
PRE took a hammering today!
PET have the same board, (near as), and CEO.
They are obviously being blamed for the debacle following yards of spin in the RNS's for the latest drill at Danbury Dome by PRE.
I suspect the drop in PET today, albeit small, is a reflection on PET from PRE.
Just a thought.
I no longer hold.
Good luck peps.......
EWRobson
- 29 Nov 2004 18:17
- 1343 of 2700
gre and seawallwalker
I think this point needs to be made. Its so easy to see the MMs as the enemy. Perhaps its better to treat them as friends. They are really nice people; they are doing this job to earn their living; the girls get their dresses from ASOS; the boys support Arsenal, Chelsea or Tottenham (if they are not so bright!). Their primary objectives are (1) encourage people to trade; (2) maximise the profit for the MM; (3) minimise the risk. One of them looks after PET with a few others stocks. Ready to mark up the price if the RNS is there. No RNS so watch out for sellers. A 15000 sell comes in five minutes before opening so mark the price down a bit. A few more sells so get the price down to prevent a flood. Oh good, some buyers around; in fact, getting a decent balance between buers and sellers. The day really goes quite smoothly. OK, there have been more buyers than sellers but trade has been OK, although not brilliant. MM has not been exposed financially. Really, the fact that the price is down on the day although buyers exceed sellers is irrelevant. Simple! No conspiracy! Nice people! Tomorrow is another day: the trading might follow a similar pattern, price down although buyers exceed sellers; it might be the inverse with initial buying, back above 100p, up although sellers exceed buyers. Oh, but there is the RNS!!! Panic stations! Push the price up fast to slow down the buying; how far does it have to go before Sandra takes some profits (oh! there's Eric! Tokyo and dexter are made of sterner stuff). Relief! here comes the sellers; down comes the price and a lovely balance ensues. In retrospect, there was a terrific spike but our lovely MM (the ASOS buyer and wearer!) has achieved a really good trading volume and her bosses have not been overly exposed!
Let me hasten to add that I'm not an MM nor have I been one, although I might well have enjoyed the job. But I am a student of human nature! Is this not how it goes?
Eric
seawallwalker
- 29 Nov 2004 18:45
- 1344 of 2700
Eric - nice piece thanks.
In fact I love the MMs. Someone has to do the job and it is done well from what I see.
My comments were not directed at them. But enough of that, I will continue to follow you fortunes albeit from the side lines. Good luck PET's.
piston broke
- 29 Nov 2004 21:06
- 1345 of 2700
well guys...if we are ever the supreme optimists, then by my reckoning tomorrrow is the last day of November unless of course the Iraqi Government have one of those strange calendars!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the other hand did they say which November???
Good luck all you PETS and get the prayer mat out tonight
hemacik16
- 30 Nov 2004 00:58
- 1346 of 2700
Ok granted no rns tomorrow and share price fall to 80p! If you think you are clever will want to sell to save yourself say 15p/a share. Tempting, hey? Especially for me who hold 66000 pets. So will save myself just over 5000. Much more tempting yumyumyum.
Wrong, because once tomorrow, end of November, is over then RNS will be out any day after that. I will not be able to buy back pre market at 80p + at least 50p; take away 15p and will end up unnecessarily paying 35p per share extra than if I had stayed put. In money terms I will have lost exactly 24,850 (35p x 66000). Now that is a rosy scenario. Going by the market size in the last few weeks, especially on the previous update, I will only be able 2/3000 shares. If I want my 66000 pets back, I will have to continuously top up (or pay a huge premium) by which time I will have paid an extra 1 say for the remaining 20000 shares to take me back to my 66000. Now how much will I have unnecessarily paid extra? I don't want to know, cause very unpleasant indeed even though it is just an imaginary scenario now. Therefore I am staying put come what may.
The scenario above applies to any holding however small it is!
Remember, we are not here for price fluctuation, BUT FOR the CONTRACT (S).
And contract(s) rns, it will be any day after tomorrow. You don't swear a company to secrecy if you 'give' no secret (sorry contract) to keep. Plus, Iraqis in Dublin, no update. DH and 7 Pet executives in Amman, no update. Now if they had got nothing from the Iraqis, it is against the LSE and SFA rules not to say so especially in the light of the Iraqis/encounters cited above, not to say of the positive updates. That would just be MISLEADING and suicidal not only for DH but also for John Teeling, who has a reputation and personal business to protect, since he also the chairman of at least 3 other companies. DH is also director in other companies. What would the city make of them? Youve guessed it.!
But would sp tank tomorrow? Extremely unlikely. The derampers (+ the mms) want to rattle some week holders so that they get in on the cheap and one would cancel out the other, and therefore no big change really. Possible rise tomorrow (or the day after) even without rns. Either tomorrow or once tomorrow is over, then it could be any ONE day after that. And those who were a bit reluctant to jump on board, will be tempted to do so on t10/t20, cause to them 'it could be any day now'. All this if no rns tomorrow.
Happy to hold even if I were to be guarranteed the price will drop by 50p and save myself that 50p!
Good Luck Pet Lovers and let's fight off the derampers as we have always done it successfully!
ps. Remember the richest & the best investor of all time, Warren Buffet, made his money by being PATIENT!
gra1969
- 30 Nov 2004 07:05
- 1347 of 2700
Eric and hemacik16, mant thanks for your heart warming posts. I have and will hold, but just get a little cynical at times (in my nature)thats cynical but not pessimistic, hopeful as always.
dexter01
- 30 Nov 2004 08:16
- 1348 of 2700
Morning all,
The MM`s are just trying to stir up business by forcingthe weaker holders out, don`t fall for it!,
Dexter