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Petrol Resources 29p to 435 by mid summer (PET)     

chartist2004 - 15 Apr 2004 12:02

The tiny Irish stock on the brink of landing 'the first' post-sanction oil deal in Iraq. Ref 'Fleet Street Letter' 12-04-04..

ziblot - 30 Nov 2004 15:29 - 1361 of 2700

People,
Posted on otherside 4652, some of the things I said but let him know as a shareholder I was not happy, Reply was almost immediate. z

aldwickk - 30 Nov 2004 15:34 - 1362 of 2700

Ziblot.
Can you paste it please.

ziblot - 30 Nov 2004 15:44 - 1363 of 2700

I emailed him. He replyed almost immediately:We are asked by the ministry to say nothing until further notice. 30 Nov. 14:15 hrs
Simply put I asked while they were in Amman surely Block 6 had to be discussed.I had already stated that a Russian/Balarus venture Slavneft had bid for and was expected to sign a sevice contract for Subba + Luhais in August 2001 but contracts at that time were delayed, deferred or cancelled. That being the case was Block 6 confirmed in recent discussion at Amman as legally binding and not defered as others were. I said if you can issue RNS based on conjecture, which is why we have a bubble in the share price,why not a press release concerning block 6 based on fact, which has nothing to do with the recent tenders but would surely underpin the SP. Amongst other things which I'm sure he wasn't happy with. If the Iraq Oil Ministry who are there for the benefit of the Iraqi people say they will make a statement by the end of November they should do so and You Mr D.H as OUR LEADER should point out to your friends in the ministry that you also work for the benefit of others and statements that do not materialise do nothing for the share price. Hoped you enjoyed your evening last night. z

scottie7 - 30 Nov 2004 16:17 - 1364 of 2700


It is obvious to me, as it is to others, all contracts have been agreed, so what's the delay? ----------The elections!!
Just some thoughts on what I believe could be causing the delay. quite a long post, but in summary the Interim Iraqi Government have delayed announcements for long term political reasons, their elections are now nine weeks away, 30th January, If I was going for election I would listen to my advisers on the best time for releasing news and not before good news was in place. below could be the 'good news' the Iraqi people would listen to and why I believe the Norwegian Oil company (Statoil) owned 81% by Norway's Government, will certainly be a front runner in our little play that is Iraqi Oil contracts. Could be the reason the Norwegian Oil bosses, were invited for talks sometime since.


"When it comes to oiland investingit's easy to overlook Norway. While political and social upheavals in major oil producersVenezuela, Nigeria, Russia, the Persian Gulfdominate headlines, Norway since 1971 has quietly been pumping massive quantities of crude from the icy waters of the North Sea. Today, Norway is the world's third-largest oil exporter, behind only Saudi Arabia and Russia, and the seventh-largest oil producer. The Norwegians have proven that oil doesn't have to be an obstacle to stability and long-term growth.

Political scientists like to talk about the " 'curse' of oil." Over the past several decades, we've seen the sorry economic state of affairs that ensues when tribal kingdoms, authoritarian regimes, kleptocracies, and left-wing dictatorships get their hands on national oil revenues. Easy oil cash entrenches corrupt establishments, discourages sound long-term economic planning, and is almost never channelled in ways that promote development.

Iraq is on the verge of finding out whether it will succumb to the curse or defeat it. Norway offers an interesting model for the Iraqis to consider. Assuming things ever calm down, Iraq will decide how to use the nation's oil wealth to benefit its putative ownersthe long-suffering Iraqi people. More than a year ago, Steven Clemons of the New America Foundation suggested that Iraq duplicate the Alaska Permanent Fund. Established in the 1970s, the fund guarantees that at least a quarter of all oil revenues received by the state be invested on behalf of the state's hardy residents. It has grown into a huge, highly diversified mutual fund. According to its September 2004 report, the APF has about $28 billion in assets. Each year, it pays out dividends to qualified residents$919.84 per person. And in many ways, it's a classically American approachbuilt on a concept of individual ownership and intended to spur demand and consumption. Last year, the fund injected about $581 million into the state's economy.

Norway has pursued a classically Scandinavian solution. It has viewed oil revenues as a temporary, collectively owned windfall that, instead of spurring consumption today, can be used to insulate the country from the storms of the global economy and provide a thick, goose-down cushion for the distant day when the oil wells run dry.

Less than 20 years after they started producing oil, the Norwegians realized their geological good luck would only be temporary. In 1990, the nation's parliament set up the Petroleum Fund of Norway to function as a fiscal shock absorber. Run under the auspices of the country's central bank, the fund, like the Alaska Fund, converts petrodollars into stocks and bonds. But instead of paying dividends, it uses revenues and appreciation to ensure the equitable distribution of wealth across generations.

Here's how it works. Cash flow from the government's petroleum activitiesthe state owns 81 percent of the aptly named Statoilis funneled into the fund. Last year, the total came to 91.9 billion kroner (about $14 billion). The fund then hires external managers to invest, generally using low-cost indexing strategies. It's conservatively managedmore bonds than stocks, and investments divided equally between Europe and the rest of the world. (Here are the results of six years of active management.)

Of course, the fund's history reveals some of the pitfalls of having socialists manage oodles of cash. The fund didn't start to invest in stocks until 1998, thus missing out on a big chunk of the boom. In 2001, it started a sub-fund to make eco-friendly investmentsgood social policy, dubious asset-management strategy.

But the huge balances mean Norway can happily continue to be heavily socialist without confronting the problems that its Euro-neighbors to the south faceunemployment, high inflation, and huge national debts. Yes, fiscal budget expenditures were a whopping 38.3 percent of gross domestic product in Norway last year. But the country still runs a budget surplus. Last year, per-capita GDP was a healthy $51,755, and both unemployment and inflation are low.

In Norway, the sudden increase in oil prices has meant larger inflows to the fund and enhanced long-term welfare for its citizens. That's not how it goes down in other big oil producing countries. In Russia, the oil boom has enriched oligarchs and increased foreign currency reserves. But the quality of life in Russia continues to deteriorate. Saudi Arabia has been pumping far more oil than Norway and for a far longer time. But its oil revenues tend to flow into the bank accounts of the royal familynot into a segregated account to benefit the public at large. As a result, the richest oil nation on earth still resembles a garden-variety poor country: a 25 percent unemployment rate, tremendous inequality of wealth and assets, a massive public debt, and an undiversified economy dependent on commodity exports.

The Norwegian economy remains heavily dependent on oil (though much less than the Saudi economy): Petroleum industries account for about 17 percent of Norwegian GDP and a hefty 45 percent of exports. But the rapid growth of the fund means Norway won't suffer massively if the oil market suddenly tanks or if production begins to dwindle. (In 30 years, Norway has pumped about 29 percent of its total reserves.) In a land of high taxes, the fund functions as a substitute for national savings. When the government runs deficits, it's allowed to transfer cash out of the funds. Unlike many other oil-dependent economieslike Russia and Saudi ArabiaNorway won't have to alter spending habits dramatically if revenues suddenly decline.

Of course, Iraq isn't directly analogous to Norwayany more than it is directly analogous to Alaska. And I'm sure most Iraqis would rather have a dividend check than see their oil wealth pile up in a vast investment pool. But Iraq has endured enough internal and external shocks in the past few decades. Maybe the shattered nation needs a fiscal shock absorber more than a gift certificate"


Adopting one of the above options could surely be a means to unite a fractious and distrusting people- the Iraqi People could see the New and interim Government in a new light and could, to some degree, see how their resources will aid the People and Iraq.
The reverse of this scenario, are the Iraqi people their Government and the region ready to adopt and welcome the first Democracy in the Middle East?

One thing for sure, setting the terms of any such 'adoption' will take a LONG TIME.

Not sure how this will help the 'half-full' or the 'half-empty' brigade or anyone else, but my hope for the Iraqi People (and Pet holders) is that the delay in announcements is in the name of democracy.

Good Luck
AF

dexter01 - 30 Nov 2004 16:25 - 1365 of 2700

scottie7,
i read something like that a few months back, not sure if the same article or not, i don`t think norway will affect PET`s chances on these contracts, but at least it`s good reading some different articles!.
strange today how lots of buys and the price hardly moves, then a few sells and it drops right away, don`t think the MM`s want our stock do you??!!.
regards,
dexter

scottie7 - 30 Nov 2004 16:55 - 1366 of 2700

Hi
It's a strange stock is Petrel, But as the man/woman said 'a Petrel comes around once in a lifetime' so how would the MMs have greater knowledge than us. They hav'nt got a clue and seem to be playing safe. Probably because no news, end of November etc.
Do you remember back in the dark days, I think it was July!! the article equating Petrel to the wildcat oil man of the 19th Century (his name escapes me at present)they all laughed at him until he struck the first US gusher.

but whatever the MMs reasoning it does make one twitch seeing the steady down trend.
lets see what tomorrow brings.

AF

EWRobson - 30 Nov 2004 19:19 - 1367 of 2700

dexter

I suspect the answer is that the MMs have been marking small-cap and AIM stocks down across the board. ASC is very similar to PET; MPH (Marchpole) had some dramatic buying late in the day without the price budging. With negativity in the market generally I suspect that it is an effort to stop too much selling taking hold when they don't want the stock.

We are bound to get stories like scottie's Norwegian one as people try to explain the delay. The most likely answer is much more simple, that there is a lot of work involved to agree the detail of the contracts and it has spilt over into December. There could be politics involved bit I would have thought that would have surfaced earlier. Keep coming back to the fact that they ahve asked PET to stay mum. As time passes the price may well drift so I hope that folk don't have stop losses in place. But I don't feel like investing more in a hiatus, so its back to sitting on my hands!

Eric

aldwickk - 30 Nov 2004 21:53 - 1368 of 2700

If you have a stop loss you should review it about twice aday, i have lowed my stop loss from 90p to 85p today, with a share like this it would be mad not have a stop loss, no contracts = 40p-60p.

EWRobson - 30 Nov 2004 22:06 - 1369 of 2700

aldwickk

Well, there are arguments both ways. Felt sorry for chap a little while ago who suddenly lost his shares because the stop loss was triggered on a temporary intra-day drop. If you have one you need to keep a weather eye on it but what if you are off playing golf, even working (!) or something. If, heaven forbid, there was an RNS saying it was all off then the MMs are going to have the priced marked heavily down at the opening, so will you actually get a better price? OK, I'm mad, but aren't we all? As has been said many times on this column, the money you have in PET must be money that you 'can afford' to lose.
Having said that, my bet is still 3:1 on although that is down a wee bit in the last few days. What are other's odds?

Eric

ziblot - 30 Nov 2004 22:36 - 1370 of 2700

Don't think a stop loss will matter with this stock. Any bad news and this will take a 30% hit in one go. Last dog I had with comdirect the share went straight thru' my stop loss and 15% leeway and was shocked to find I was still in it as the stock did not hit my parameters. The stock bounced tho' so I was better off not selling.The MMs create dead cat bounces because they don't want the stock either and a mark up fools the punters into coming back in for a cat thats had its last bounce. Remember they have been told not to make an announcement.z

aldwickk - 30 Nov 2004 23:01 - 1371 of 2700

I have got a guaranteen stop loss on 75% and non-guaranteen on 25%.

gra1969 - 01 Dec 2004 07:33 - 1372 of 2700

very hard day to stomach yesterday, been looking everywhere for anything to cheer me up! Why do i get the feeling im gonna like Friday? Hopeful or stupid ha ha!

dexter01 - 01 Dec 2004 10:07 - 1373 of 2700

Morning one and all,
Something that just occurred to me, the IOM said they expected to AWARD the contracts on 2 tenders in November and SIGN them in December. Now, we know that PET have been "sworn to secrecy" by the IOM, surely it would make good business not to put out an rns saying that they have got whatever until they sign on the dotted line,this would mean an rns in December.

This might seem like i`m clutching at straws, but we have all been hanging on every word that has been said and then disecting it even further, but if you stand back and look at the whole picture it does make sense not to announce something until it is set in stone, especially when you have been told not to.
just my thoughts,
Dexter

gra1969 - 01 Dec 2004 11:06 - 1374 of 2700

interesting to see a mm to mm trade this morning

aldwickk - 01 Dec 2004 11:10 - 1375 of 2700

Dexter.

I agree with that it makes sense.

Kivver - 01 Dec 2004 13:02 - 1376 of 2700

And what excuse are we going to give at the end of dec, with still no annoncements this could go on for months or even years. It seems silly that somebody somewhere cant say whats happening. Starting to lose faith somebody give me some encouragement. I also bought at high price so already well down.

willfagg - 01 Dec 2004 13:21 - 1377 of 2700

I agree, would have thought a statement advising of when a further trading update will be given does not contravene the rules and would at least suggest things are delayed not dead

Tokyo - 01 Dec 2004 13:29 - 1378 of 2700

Kivver - The only encouragement you should need is to look at your research, if not flick back through the thread(as there is plently of good info on here) and you'll see we are just waiting for the same announcement that we were waiting for after the PET team came back from Jordan, nothing apart from the Share price has changed since then, if anything we are closer to a possible announcement, but then again it could come towards the end of this month, is there an other investment out there, that will jump from 90 pence to 3 pounds on a possible announcement, I've got two companies with possible announcements this month NBR & PET both look set to jump if they come in, I'm pretty confident about both of them, but I do understand the frustration especially if you bought in at over a pound.

Tokyo

chartist2004 - 01 Dec 2004 13:35 - 1379 of 2700

>Tokyo< 'Nothing apart the share price has changed since then' Is this not what we are all interested in?

Tokyo - 01 Dec 2004 14:00 - 1380 of 2700

Chartist - I'm interested in the share price after the contracts have been awarded, not the current SP or intraday ups & downs,I'll leave those to the day traders, still waiting for that 435!!!!!!
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