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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 22 Dec 2009 12:34 - 1362 of 6906

In 1931, the Coca Cola Corporation contracted the Swedish commercial artist Haddon Sundblom to create a coke-drinking Santa. Sundblom modeled his Santa on his friend Lou Prentice, chosen for his cheerful, chubby face. The corporation insisted that Santas fur-trimmed suit be bright, Coca Cola red. And Santa was born a blend of Christian crusader, pagan god, and commercial idol.

hilary - 22 Dec 2009 14:28 - 1363 of 6906

My Gaza Hell Ride

Fred1new - 22 Dec 2009 14:29 - 1364 of 6906

So what!

Adsorb the good part of what have become customs or mores and reject the less palatable or acceptable.

One doesnt have to go along with the customs or what is considered fashionable. You can stick to your contrarian views, if you wish.

Happy XMAS.

PS Wicky is wicked!

Fred1new - 27 Dec 2009 10:39 - 1365 of 6906

Congratulations to Israel for finishing the year on a peaceful note:


One can understand why Iran doesn't trust America and the West and may wish to have nuclear armaments.




World 'failed Gaza over Israeli blockade' - aid groups
By Tim Franks
BBC News, Jerusalem

Palestinians in Gaza
Aid agencies say the world community must put more pressure on Israel

Aid agencies have strongly criticised the international community for failing to help bring an end to Israel's blockade of Gaza.

The charities made the accusation in a report published just ahead of the anniversary of Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip.

The aid agencies condemn not just Israel, but the world community.

In the words of Oxfam's director, Jeremy Hobbs, "world powers have failed and betrayed Gaza's ordinary citizens".

The charities call for more pressure to be exerted on Israel to end what they describe as its illegal collective punishment of Gazans.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8421694.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8430688.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8425698.stm

Fred1new - 13 Jan 2010 12:40 - 1366 of 6906

I am not certain whether you can download the documentary described below.

Interesting insight in to the mechanics of some of the Zionist thinking and their continuing abuses of Gaza.


For those who missed this program.

True Stories: Defamation

Tuesday 12 January
10:00pm - 12:05am
More4

Yoav Shamir's examination of anti-Semitism in this provocative Michael Moore-style film whisks him from the Anti-Defamation League HQ in New York to Jerusalem and Auschwitz, where his experiences visiting the former concentration camp with a group of Israeli school kids leads him to the controversial idea that anti-Semitism might be a conspiracy of the Jews and not against them. It will doubtless cause outrage in certain quarters but even so you may agree with his conclusion that "too much emphasis on the past is holding us back".

Radio Times reviewer - Jane Rackham
VIDEO Plus+: 41679812

cynic - 13 Jan 2010 12:45 - 1367 of 6906

send in the phosgene gas tankers

Fred1new - 13 Jan 2010 12:50 - 1368 of 6906

I am impressed with the speed of appraising the program and the depth of your informed opinion!


HO, Ho!

cynic - 13 Jan 2010 12:51 - 1369 of 6906

as has been said before on numerous occasions - a plague on both their houses
in this instance, they're both as bad (more pungent epithets also come to mind) as each other as were the provos and the loyalists in ireland

though it clearly suits neither protagonist nor their secret backers, a pragmatic approach would see the whole matter sorted in a relatively short time (a year or two instead of decades)

Fred1new - 13 Jan 2010 13:54 - 1370 of 6906

I agree with the latter part of your statement. (Don't like plagues.)

One of the problems is the orchestrated entrenching of attitudes in the young.

One struggles to see who gains from such, or what the underlying motivation
for doing so is.

It seems primitive, but primitive drives can generally be seen as "purposeful", sometimes with possible benefit.

Perhaps, the instigators, or the coercers are just tribal and archaic.



cynic - 13 Jan 2010 14:48 - 1371 of 6906

just politically driven with their own agendas

fahel - 25 Jan 2010 14:08 - 1372 of 6906

HOW ISRAELI'S TREAT PALESTINIANS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcYcw-uWqzk

Fred1new - 25 Jan 2010 14:37 - 1373 of 6906

Do the Israelis consider themselves superior beings?

required field - 25 Jan 2010 15:15 - 1374 of 6906

Couldn't we have some jewish jokes for a change ?, some of them are quite funny !.

Fred1new - 25 Jan 2010 17:18 - 1375 of 6906

I agree.

Jewish, Russian-Jewish and American Russian humour with its irony, self depreciation and perceptive quality is one of the many redeeming features of those of Jewish origin.



ExecLine - 25 Jan 2010 17:41 - 1376 of 6906

The sooner we get an end to all religions, then the better as far as I am concerned.

For ages now, these have been used by those in power to teach morality and control the masses. All this whilst those who have the most money and power and control have clearly realised that they govern and determine their own morality.

I do wish someone would invent or introduce a new 'morality' as a 'standard' or 'way to get the best out of life' and begin to teach it internationally. All of this, so as to completely put an end to all these mystic religions.

Here's the most recent amusing and trash definition of Christianity which I've read:

"The belief, that some cosmic jewish zombie, who is his own father, can make you live forever, if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, thus allowing him to remove an evil force from your soul, that is present in all of humanity merely because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat fruit from a magical tree."

Isn't this explanation about right? Isn't it just blatant and utterly ridiculous rubbish?

Let's bring some more of these 'trashing definitions' on and collapse some more religions.

But at the same time, let's put some sensible and fair 'life guidelines' back in their place.

Has anyone got one for the Jewish religion? Or even any other religion?

Fred1new - 25 Jan 2010 18:27 - 1377 of 6906

Exec, even a non-belief is, or can become a belief.

Also, I can foresee the difficulties of introjection of a core "morality" into some of the young of a society in the absence of a religious base of some form.

I think it may be reasonable to examined beliefs in adolescence, or later, and at that time some of the absurdities of many religion can be challenged.

For me, religion seems to have its uses and its amusing sides.

It is a small number of Zealots, of whatever creed they believe in, who seem to spoil it.

Also, I see that a lot of members of various religious groups seem to be more altruistic than those without a religion.

Many working in conditions and places into which I would hesitate to venture.

What interests me, is why you seem to be so angry about others having their beliefs?





Haystack - 25 Jan 2010 18:29 - 1378 of 6906

I completely agree. Instead of worrying that religious believers might be offended, we should be intending to offend them. There are far worse things than being offended, such as all the things done in the name of religion. If you described the beliefs and practices of religion without mentioning that it was religious then the whole thing would be absurd. It is no more sane than believing in fairies at the bottom of your garden or that carrots are holy and cannot be eaten or a sin would be committed.

A major step forward would be to remove the special status of faith schools as regards charitable staus and ability to preselect pupils. It is not the faith element that makes faith schools better. It is the preselection of well behaved pupils who have parents that want their children to learn. I went to a convent school and the nuns were pathetic teachers. In my year ony two children passed the 11 plus. that's pretty dire for a fee paying school. I went to a Catholic Grammar school run by Jesuit priests. The education was very good, but probably similar to most grammar schools as again the pupils had been preselected by the 11 plus.

Fred1new - 25 Jan 2010 18:44 - 1379 of 6906

It is the preselection of well behaved pupils who have parents that want their children to learn.

What is the ethos of the parents who have well behaved children?

Where and when did the ethos originate?

Was it passed onto the parents of the children?

If so, by whom?

Was the process useful for society?

Just interested?

(Perhaps, it was from David Cameron and his family structure theories?)

fahel - 26 Jan 2010 10:10 - 1380 of 6906

The Reality Of Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l30k54fH23g

ExecLine - 26 Jan 2010 11:18 - 1381 of 6906

In 'The Reality Of Israel' Jewish woman, Nurit Peled , tells the truth about Israel ....Israeli peace activist Professor Nurit Peled whose own 13-year-old daughter was killed by a suicide bomber in 1997 but instead of speaking against the Palestinians, she speaks in favour of them and reveals the reality of Israel.

"My little girl was murdered because she was an Israeli, by a young man who was humiliated, oppressed and desperate to the point of suicide and murder and inhumanity, just because he was a Palestinian."
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