Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

The sooner we get an end to all religions, then the better as far as I am concerned.

For ages now, these have been used by those in power to teach morality and control the masses. All this whilst those who have the most money and power and control have clearly realised that they govern and determine their own morality.

I do wish someone would invent or introduce a new 'morality' as a 'standard' or 'way to get the best out of life' and begin to teach it internationally. All of this, so as to completely put an end to all these mystic religions.

Here's the most recent amusing and trash definition of Christianity which I've read:

"The belief, that some cosmic jewish zombie, who is his own father, can make you live forever, if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, thus allowing him to remove an evil force from your soul, that is present in all of humanity merely because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat fruit from a magical tree."

Isn't this explanation about right? Isn't it just blatant and utterly ridiculous rubbish?

Let's bring some more of these 'trashing definitions' on and collapse some more religions.

But at the same time, let's put some sensible and fair 'life guidelines' back in their place.

Has anyone got one for the Jewish religion? Or even any other religion?

Exec, even a non-belief is, or can become a belief.

Also, I can foresee the difficulties of introjection of a core "morality" into some of the young of a society in the absence of a religious base of some form.

I think it may be reasonable to examined beliefs in adolescence, or later, and at that time some of the absurdities of many religion can be challenged.

For me, religion seems to have its uses and its amusing sides.

It is a small number of Zealots, of whatever creed they believe in, who seem to spoil it.

Also, I see that a lot of members of various religious groups seem to be more altruistic than those without a religion.

Many working in conditions and places into which I would hesitate to venture.

What interests me, is why you seem to be so angry about others having their beliefs?

I completely agree. Instead of worrying that religious believers might be offended, we should be intending to offend them. There are far worse things than being offended, such as all the things done in the name of religion. If you described the beliefs and practices of religion without mentioning that it was religious then the whole thing would be absurd. It is no more sane than believing in fairies at the bottom of your garden or that carrots are holy and cannot be eaten or a sin would be committed.

A major step forward would be to remove the special status of faith schools as regards charitable staus and ability to preselect pupils. It is not the faith element that makes faith schools better. It is the preselection of well behaved pupils who have parents that want their children to learn. I went to a convent school and the nuns were pathetic teachers. In my year ony two children passed the 11 plus. that's pretty dire for a fee paying school. I went to a Catholic Grammar school run by Jesuit priests. The education was very good, but probably similar to most grammar schools as again the pupils had been preselected by the 11 plus.

It is the preselection of well behaved pupils who have parents that want their children to learn.

What is the ethos of the parents who have well behaved children?

Where and when did the ethos originate?

Was it passed onto the parents of the children?

If so, by whom?

Was the process useful for society?

Just interested?

(Perhaps, it was from David Cameron and his family structure theories?)

The Reality Of Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l30k54fH23g

In 'The Reality Of Israel' Jewish woman, Nurit Peled , tells the truth about Israel ....Israeli peace activist Professor Nurit Peled whose own 13-year-old daughter was killed by a suicide bomber in 1997 but instead of speaking against the Palestinians, she speaks in favour of them and reveals the reality of Israel.

"My little girl was murdered because she was an Israeli, by a young man who was humiliated, oppressed and desperate to the point of suicide and murder and inhumanity, just because he was a Palestinian."

One can see why Israel is being looked upon by many as a becoming a Pariah State.

I wonder why they are allowed to dismiss International Law.

If what is stated in below and the article from the Times is correct I hope that those involved will be extradited and put on trial for murder.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7029553.ece

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February 17, 2010 *******

Britons had passport details stolen by Mossad death squad

Catherine Philp, Diplomatic Correspondent, Richard Ford, Home Correspondent and Sheera Frenkel, Jerusalem


British authorities are investigating how six British nationals apparently had their identities stolen by suspected Mossad agents on a mission to assassinate a Hamas leader in Dubai.

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office confirmed that the identities used by six members of the 11-strong hit squad were those of real British passport holders living in Israel. We believe the passports used were fraudulent, and have begun our own investigation, a spokesman said.

Authorities are considering the possibility that British passport details were copied from the originals by hotel or immigration staff while the holders were travelling.

While the names, passport numbers and dates of birth on the fraudulent passports matched the originals, the photographs and signatures differed.
etc..

Fred - you'd have gone on such a mission on your own passport? Sounds like a plan.

You mean CIA and MI5 agents don't use their own travel documents?

Isaacs - this thread is a revelation. Of Fred's double standards.

Isaacs,

If P 1384 is referring to using false passports by agents, I am sure they do.

As can be seen from the Iraq debacle, their value is questionable.

But if they committed murder abroad or home I would hope they would be brought to book.

It is the arrogance of, and dismissive abuse by "Israel" of other countries that is the problem.

The repercussion is that a peaceful resolution of the problems in Middle East is postpone or lessened.

If other countries carried out what is suggested to be an Israeli action then I can imagine the outrage they would show.

Impersonating real identities must surely become de rigueur for any competent spy. With computerised border controls, and passenger lists being reported to anti-terrorism agencies, a made up name and passport number simply wouldn't work.

What is interesting about these passports is that the real people are Israeli residents. One is a handyman working on a farm in Israel who is a British passport holder and is quite upset about the use of his details.

I once lost my passport, but didn't think I had lost my identity and wandered without the passport around Portugal for about a month , as I was still able to recognise myself. (Others may of course have different thoughts!)

Fred clever stuff though you have to admit. Also I am sure the hamas top man who was dispatched in a top class hotel in Dubai no doubt paid for with corrupt money had blood on his hands.
If it was Mossad and dont believe all you read than they very rarely get it wrong. In this case the target was the man who was hit. No innocent bystanders were hurt,unlike the aimless firing of rockets by Hamas in to southern Israel.

Shame. Fred - what do you need to lose in order to lose your identity? And may I help in some way?

G

Yuf.

You seem to me, to be justifying unlawful killing and to abuse of the laws of other countries.

The same may be said, if, or when, Hamas or members of a terrorists group do the same to Israelis, where ever they are in the world.

Doesn't seem very enlightened, or beneficial in the long run.



But you are entitle to your view.

Noone like its identity to be stolen and missused.
Those poor guys cannto travel to many countries from last week, because they are suspects!!

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