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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Camelot - 11 Apr 2010 23:33 - 1494 of 6906

freddy

its not a 'gaza conflict'

if gaza want peace, they can have it any time they want.

they just have to stop behaving like little children with big boys toys

keeping their own people in abject poverty is a losing strategy as well

fahel - 12 Apr 2010 08:29 - 1495 of 6906

Yaff, As I mentioned earlier I will not post anything and will not answer your questions,

Yuff do not Yuff Yuff a lot neighbors wants to sleep.

Gausie - 12 Apr 2010 10:15 - 1496 of 6906

yuff

Cross the israeli border illegally with a suicide bomb strapped to your back and Freddy will defend your right to do so.

Fred1new - 12 Apr 2010 10:19 - 1497 of 6906

Yuff.

What right do you think you have to demand an answer from anyone other than yourself?

To me that seems to be arrogant and showing delusionary qualities of yourself.

Go back and read your postings and judge again.

I believe, you have little knowledge of me, other than from what I have posted and I doubt, if you read my postings, that there is evidence of me being racist.

It is obvious that some or all of what I have posted doesn't agree with your understanding and positioning, that is your right, but I think you personal comments about me are projections of your own prejudices.

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Camelot,

The United Nations and World opinion in general does not support your opinion.

Many Israelis disagree with the actions of their government.

I dont condone the rocketing of Israel from Gaza, but understand it to be attempting to keep the problems of the Middle East in the public arena and press.

With a hope of resolution of their problems, without complete capitulation and submission to the some some extreme expectancies of some Zionist leaders.


(There are other aims concerning internal politics and aspirations of Hamas and Fatah, as there are for Netanyahu and his macho positioning.)

Israel is trying to bully those in Gaza into submission at the same time as confiscating Arab property in Jerusalem.

The same types of actions were used against the Jews in Germany by the Fascists in the 1930s. Those actions were brutish, humiliating, and failed to achieve the intended outcome.

I think the America and World opinion is becoming more and more disillusioned with the Israelis posturing.

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PS.

I think some groups in Israel and Gaza and held together by religious beliefs, not racial purity. (Both groups are of a mixed genetic pool.)

yuff - 12 Apr 2010 10:56 - 1498 of 6906

fahel-answer the question.It may help me to decide what agenda you operate under.

Posting obscene rascit filth by an unknown female is unjustified.

Where do you originate from?

I have a strong idea but want you to confirm so i know to whom I am talking.

Fred-get a life and step off your high horse. You are no more noble or mightier than anyone posting on this thread.

Your views are poisend by what i do not know. Apart from the obvious!!

Gausie - 12 Apr 2010 10:59 - 1499 of 6906

yuff - fahel's shown his hand - he's blown any credibility he might have had and there's now no more for him to post - so you may as well leave it.

He'll turn up again in due course under a different name. Who knows? Maybe he already posts under the name Fred1new? All the other political stances seem to match, as do the astonishing levels of ignorance and bigotry. Fred also failed to distance himself from his former ally's comments with anything stronger than an "I'm sorry but.." and as they say, "everything before the but is bullshit".

G

Camelot - 12 Apr 2010 11:22 - 1500 of 6906

"attempting to keep the problems in the public arena and press."

let's do murder seems hardly appropriate in a civilised world



Fred1new - 12 Apr 2010 13:05 - 1501 of 6906

"let's do murder seems hardly appropriate in a civilised world"

That applies to Israel and Gaza.

Comparing the death tolls in both areas I think like the UN the Israeli's reactions are disproportional and they have committed "War Crimes".

But you are entitled to you view point!

Camelot - 12 Apr 2010 14:07 - 1502 of 6906

if you want to volunteer as a human shield, you have only to apply

Fred1new - 12 Apr 2010 15:32 - 1503 of 6906

I doubt that that would resolve the problems.

But getting past the primitive mind set which is held by many in the Israeli administration and their supporters is a major problem.

Unfortunately, the same similar fixed rationalities are seen in some of the Arab leaders.

But this is more understandable, when Israel continues to break or abuse contracts it has entered into.



fahel - 12 Apr 2010 21:22 - 1504 of 6906

Gausie, yuff, I would be honered if I be Fred1new, or part of him, Fred1new is at least says the right thing always, when he says the truth the other does not like it, and this is alwyas the situation when someone blind can not see infornt of him and does not understand the whole issue, he just see himself and his view and want everyone to accept his view.
Fred1new tell Yuff about gaza and west bank, if someone from Gaza lives in west bank both palestinian teritory they will be deportd or put in jail as gaza people should not cross to west bank and vise versa...please send the west bank and gaza map showing yuff where is gaza and where is the west bank and the distance between both areas and the way they cross it.

In The Land of the B - 12 Apr 2010 22:18 - 1505 of 6906

Maybe the Israelis would need to be less controlling if the Palestinians were willing to live in peace with them and not want to blow them up and drive them into the sea.

In The Land of the B - 12 Apr 2010 22:20 - 1506 of 6906

This fred sounds like a nazi anti-semite and fahel his puppy dog

In The Land of the B - 12 Apr 2010 22:27 - 1507 of 6906

The extreme Left and the Islamic extremists make good bed fellows with their hatred of Jews who they call monkeys and pigs.
Second object of hate - America
What did Stalin call the far Left - useful idiots - that's what the Islamist hate mongers call them as well.

MightyMicro - 12 Apr 2010 23:09 - 1508 of 6906

This thread is becoming more unpleasant by the day. There is no debate, just mud-slinging and hate-mongering.

Perhaps time to relocate it to the proper place for such things, ADVFN?

Fred1new - 13 Apr 2010 00:06 - 1509 of 6906

Fahel,

Thank you for your support, but I squelched gausy and a few more of his fellow pack members a long time ago.

I think some of the remarks being made would be useful if spoken into a mirror and reflected upon.

All the same, it is interesting to me, who and what comes out of the woodwork and the little thought they then apply to the problems under consideration, preferring to expend their energy on the denigration of others.

The same methods of arguments were applied in the twenties and thirties by the thugs of the left and right of politics.

"Oh will they never learn"

It is pity they don't realise what they are doing to themselves.

MightyMicro - 13 Apr 2010 00:59 - 1510 of 6906

Hello Gausie! Welcome to the Squelchy Step.

Fred and this thread have both outlived any usefullness they might have had. The mere fact that Fred simply squelches people he doesn't agree with means the whole thing is pointless.

PS: squelched gausy and a few more of his fellow pacl members What the heck is "pacl"? Am I a member of a club I didn't know I was a member of? Do I want to be a member (pace Groucho Marx)?

Gausie - 13 Apr 2010 04:48 - 1511 of 6906

Hi MightyMicro - I've received a communication from the international brotherhood asking how Fred found out about us. I've forwarded it to you and the other regional pacl exec officers via secure pacl-mail, and have asked to have it added to the pre-election agenda as an urgent security matter.

Do you recall a Douglas Adams character by the name 'Wonko the Sane'? Built his house inside out as an asylum, thereby placing the rest of the word in 'The Asylum'. The sign above the door leading into his house said 'Come Outside'.

In Wonko's world he was the only sane man - he cut off the rest of the world by placing them in The Asylum.

Had the world been a BB he'd have squelched it.

So far as this thread is concerned, I agree it's outlived its natural life. It was relevant and interesting during the Gaza crisis. Now it's just Fred relentlessly spouting off with his venom and half truths and is attracting open racism from posters such as fahel. MAM seems to be taking unecessary risks in keeping it open.

MightyMicro - 13 Apr 2010 09:19 - 1512 of 6906

Gausie - are we like the illuminati, then? I've always wanted to be part of a world-wide conspiracy. You will find that one of the great advantages of being parked on the Squelchy Step with the rest of us illuminati is that Fred can't read your posts so you become only an indirect target of his vituperation. However, must dash, I've got a bit of New World Order to sort out.

yuff - 13 Apr 2010 15:23 - 1513 of 6906

fahel - 12 Apr 2010 21:22 - 1504 of 1512
Gausie, yuff, I would be honered if I be Fred1new, or part of him, Fred1new is at least says the right thing always, when he says the truth the other does not like it, and this is alwyas the situation when someone blind can not see infornt of him and does not understand the whole issue, he just see himself and his view and want everyone to accept his view.
Fred1new tell Yuff about gaza and west bank, if someone from Gaza lives in west bank both palestinian teritory they will be deportd or put in jail as gaza people should not cross to west bank and vise versa...please send the west bank and gaza map showing yuff where is gaza and where is the west bank and the distance between both areas and the way they cross it.



Fahel you moron-I have lived and worked in that area so please do not preach to me. I work in Arab countries and indeed only returned from one on Friday. Let me tell you Fahel, the Arab man in the street cares a lot less about your Palestinain brothers than you do living in the UK.

Why do you not show your support and go and live with your brothers if you feel so strongly about the Israeli mistreatment.

I am staggered that you and Fred actually believe what you write. The bigotry and false allegations spread by the internet has sadly influenced you. I feel that people have to stand up to bigots and racists like yourself who anonymously publish gutter press articles.

If I saw a moslem man with a beard and head cover walking alongside a moslem woman with a hijab on and they were being abused by street yobs,I would walk over to defend them.

Would you fahel do the same for a rabbi who was being abused on his way to synagogue?? Or would you turn the other cheek as the Eastern europeans did in the holocaust?

There Fahel-a nice simple question for you.
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