bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
hewittalan6
- 03 Mar 2006 17:43
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Sorry driver.
getting a bit excited up here.
That (in my opinion) is a more significant bit of news that the tie up with WalMart or the McD thing.
Mouthwatering!!!!
Alan
stockdog
- 03 Mar 2006 17:47
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Alan
nice sums - I take it you think it's 20k tonnes p.a. or is it per term which might be 2, 3 or 5 years?
Actually the number if units is just a function of how light each is. I'm more interested in starting with the demographics of several million units (which products/end users) and dividing by the relevant numbers to get back to the realistic number of tonnes - that would tell us SPmetal's gross revenue of which 50% belongs to SEO after manufacturing and overhead costs of course.
Do you think that SEO will also be able to charge a royalty on each unit - now the big numbers become very interesting?
sd
kimoldfield
- 03 Mar 2006 17:49
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I'm sticking to my prediction that Starpol packaging will be bigger that Greenseal, GS has a limited application use, Starpol is unlimited - keeping up with volume being the only possible problem. 20 by Christmas!?! A good find Jim
kim
hewittalan6
- 03 Mar 2006 17:55
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Its another vague one!!
Could well be 5 years, but that is still huge numbers.
I don't think SEO will go the royalty route, but the numbers of units possible tell us this is BIG.
After all, 50 gram may be correct for a takeaway carton, but it will be less for pre packaged foods from supermarkets.
My interest is the indication that it really is happening now, the licenses are going out. The really vague bit? What on earth is vertical integration? I thought that was from the Karma Sutra!!!
Alan
Biscuit
- 03 Mar 2006 18:07
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Vertical integration as an example would be a retailer owning a supplier. Horizontal integration would be a retailer owning another retailer.
hewittalan6
- 03 Mar 2006 18:09
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Thanks for that biscuit.
That makes a bit more sense now.
Alan :-)
kimoldfield
- 03 Mar 2006 18:12
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Biscuit
Am I right in thinking that SEO control everything then?
kim
Biscuit
- 03 Mar 2006 18:15
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No problemo, anyone hear an engine revving?
hewittalan6
- 03 Mar 2006 18:15
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Results RNS said WM were fastracking SEO product.
This release says;
Stanelco has decided to take this step of offering vertical integration to a limited number of manufacturers who share with them environmental sustainable and competitive mindsets
And
preference will be given to those companies able to move to agreement and bring product to market in the soonest time frame.
Not going to put two an two together cos when I get 4 SEO get some other number!!
Going to cricket nets soon but my mind will be on this (sad little twerp that i am)
Alan
EWRobson
- 03 Mar 2006 18:49
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I like it. Have you got a 'environmental, sustainable and competitive mind-set'? The answer for any self-respecting supplier has to be yes. If so, and if you are able to act quickly, beating others to the door and get the product to the amrket quickly, then we will do business with you. Nice bit of arrogance, but oprobablky just right for the yanks!
Alan didn't produce a 'credible' number so what about my revenue forecast above?
Eric
ssanebs
- 03 Mar 2006 19:42
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Starpol is in its final weeks of coming to commercialisation, as the US release points out in full confidence of its product. And i bet its mcd's who are the first licensee.
The numbers in the previous post show the potential starpol has, which i dont think shares mag have taken into consideration. They must think seo is just about greenseal.
barney12345
- 03 Mar 2006 20:55
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but why not an rns, after years of flannel rns's the really big news via a press release!!!
hope to god no-one applies for starpol via the us website or email as neither works. I wonder how many other walmart/mcds suppliers have no website or published email?
explosive
- 03 Mar 2006 21:35
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Excellent post Barney and I'm very surprised to hear this, SEO are looking for sales and to cut a potential source of enquiry isn't acceptable.
barney12345
- 03 Mar 2006 21:46
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explosive you need to join qc and I on fyb, the seo marketing is a joke. I am not being negative but the biotec website is still in german and contacts are still german addresses, the frogpack links do not work and aquasol has no seo branding. WE NEED GROUP MARKETING STRATEGY AND ITEM 1 IS WEBSITE BRANDING CONSISTENCY. I emailed seo US today via their website 20 mins later got a reply no such emolyee email returned, then this pm the same woman issues a press release.
Pathetic joined up PR. The frogpack site has a link to seo. except the link goes to the old seo site which is decommissioned so you get 404 site not found error.
I mean for pity sake.
Then they announce 2 machines but who cares it is all starpol.
really really wonder sales and marekting dept need a rocket somewhere.
driver
- 03 Mar 2006 22:05
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barney
You may have the wrong Web Site; the Link below is for Biotec its not in German. I do agree the SEO Site is crap and also the Aquasol Site they are out of date and very uninformative. SEO need to be told and get their house in order.
http://www.biotec.de/engl/index_engl.htm
barney12345
- 03 Mar 2006 22:10
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driver go to seo website follow the biotec link ang go to contacts, think you will see my point.
but agree, I want to be positive, want this co to suceed.
QC and I are building on FYB to email seo once a week to tell them to sort this. If 20 of us from various bbs mail them every 7 days we may get them to sort it.
barney12345
- 03 Mar 2006 22:11
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sorry driver crossed in post
Oilywag
- 03 Mar 2006 22:42
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Barney
I am also highly disappointed with SEO's website. Its a bloody shambles and is probably doing more damage to the company's reputation than any good. There is absolutely no excuse at all for it. They really do not realise that the website is the company's shop window to entice people in to enquire and buy.
At the moment I cannot get into FYB to post because I have changed my settings during a cleanup and forgotten my password. I can and do read the board every day to keep up with the discussions - most of which are very helpful and informative.
The oily one
explosive
- 03 Mar 2006 23:16
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barney - MAM is the only BB that I read or post on. I personaly find fyb a pain to use and prefer the simplicity of the MAM site in comparison.