cynic
- 02 Mar 2011 11:48
starting this thread, which i hope will be short-lived, to keep the board up to date with latest reports gleaned from the net
Bernard M
- 23 Mar 2011 07:46
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My war chest is well hidden from the wife.
Joking aside IMHO Gadaffe will go into excile and escape punishment.
cynic
- 23 Mar 2011 07:52
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i think you are probably right bernard ..... a good pragmatic resolution to the problem; i guess chavez will take him in .... mind you, it does presuppose a modicum of cooperation from MG
mnamreh
- 23 Mar 2011 07:55
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cynic
- 23 Mar 2011 08:01
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and what does that drivel actually mean?
by the way, have you ever stated what YOU would do about libya, or even what stance (but clearly no action) you hold?
perhaps you are one of the crew that propounds, "a pox on both their houses; let the rebels be annihilated; it'll teach them a good lesson"?
mnamreh
- 23 Mar 2011 08:36
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Fred1new
- 23 Mar 2011 08:38
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"contingency fund"
I wish I had such, if it is magically filled by waving a wand,
I think it is an illusion or in case of some a delusional.
Hear I am going to be 45 a year better off.
How much worse off am I going to feel.
cynic
- 23 Mar 2011 08:46
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so you still sit on the fence ... great position provided the pickets aren't sharpened
i am not remotely uncomfortable with my own views ..... it may not be apparent (to you), but i thought pretty carefully about what i considered to be the right action in this theatre, and have not changed it
however, also as already clearly posted, i would be very uncomfortable indeed if land forces were deployed for this would not only be in complete contravention to UN 1973, but much more importantly, against the wishes of both AL and even the libyan rebels themselves
as for resolution, i would hope that MG is disposed of very quickly by one means or another - the preferred route would be that he is removed willingly or not, and exiled to venezuela or whatever other country might take him and his family
i don't think a (show) trial as happened to SH is in the best interests of anyone, and merely prolongs the problem
mnamreh
- 23 Mar 2011 09:01
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cynic
- 23 Mar 2011 09:12
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again, i chose "theatre" intentionally, for all sorts of good and fun reasons!
your last para is true, but nevertheless a situation can only (has to be) be dealt with according to the facts and situation at the time ...... even in everyday life and buisness it is impossible to see exactly where a certain course will end up, so "best judgement" must be applied .... passively doing nothing is not or not should not be an option
mnamreh
- 23 Mar 2011 09:29
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cynic
- 23 Mar 2011 09:41
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no that is not what i said at all ...... i said "passively doing nothing" which is far from the same thing ...... careful consideration etc may lead one to the conclusion that no action should be taken - that is "actively doing nothing" .....
in this instance, my view is that such a stance is not and would not be in the best interests of the world at large ..... of course oil is an important factor, but that is not just greed and i assume it does not need to be spelt out ..... burnt-out tobacco farms do not, i am afraid, have the same effect on world economics (and politics)
mnamreh
- 23 Mar 2011 09:55
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cynic
- 23 Mar 2011 10:04
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may well respond at greater length later, but actually have a living to earn too (lol!) ..... the short and unsatisfactory answer is "yes" and "i don't agree with you"
mnamreh
- 23 Mar 2011 10:12
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cynic
- 23 Mar 2011 10:25
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yes and intelligent discussion suddenly too!
mnamreh
- 23 Mar 2011 10:34
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ahoj
- 23 Mar 2011 11:02
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Gaddafi should leave the office and ask his ministry of internal affair to run the governement etc...
But, they do not like to talk to each other, the only way for them is fighting as the killing adds to the problem.
ptholden
- 23 Mar 2011 19:59
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M
As with most idealists, you deplore action, but simultaneously cannot offer an alternative.
I suppose your self-satisfying stance may in your view be the preferred option, but I doubt the Libyan rebels would thank you.
mnamreh
- 23 Mar 2011 20:49
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cynic
- 23 Mar 2011 21:00
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hmm! .... an unconvincing post MN, except for a dedicated fence-sitter