after yesterdays agm statement the share price has risen 50% how much upside is left or is this another false dawn?
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/thewellnessshop.co.uk
womans hour link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/04/2008_08_mon.shtml

this was posted on advfn. quite interesting

"kevsdad - 31 Aug'05 - 17:56 - 14068 of 14090

This i have found on the Swindon and North west link above i think it is very important

Approximately one in five of us will suffer from a mild to severe bout of depression at some point in our lives. In the UK, the Depression Alliance reports that more than 2.9 million people are diagnosed with the condition at any one time. Worldwide, it is the fourth leading cause of ill health and the World Health Organization (WHO) predicts its incidence will rise during the next 20 years.

Not surprisingly, primary care services in England are already feeling the strain when it comes to providing patients with effective support. While drugs may help some and others will get better without any help, a shortage of therapists means that the large number of people who do need face-to-face counselling could have to wait six months or more. That's why many organisations are turning to Beating the Blues, a computer-based self-help program based on the principles of cognitive behaviour therapy.

Developed by the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College, London, in conjunction with IT healthcare company Ultrasis, the program was launched three years ago. It is now being used by 74 primary care trusts (PCTs) and four mental health trusts, as well as a number of other organisations such as prisons, police forces and private business. For this growing band of devotees, it offers a 'double whammy': minimum professional input, plus the promise of reaching inaccessible sections of the population (such as young men) who feel more comfortable responding to a computer screen than pouring out their feelings to a complete stranger.

Beating the Blues involves eight, one hour sessions. Clients work through a series of topics, looking at their core beliefs and learning how to challenge any unhelpful thoughts. They also confront a number of examples of everyday situations that can trigger anxiety such as being held up in a traffic jam, failing to meet a deadline or being 'stood up'.

Problem solving techniques are used to teach more positive ways of thinking and behaving: directed by the computer program's 'spoken voice', participants work through how they might deal with a problem, determining how much control they have over it - and confronting any resulting feelings of anger or worthlessness. The sessions are supervised, but the emphasis is on self-help and it seems to be working.

A clinical trial of three hundred patients showed that their mean scores for depression and anxiety fell to 'near-normal' after using Beating the Blues and these improvements were maintained (Proudfoot et al. 2004). Clinical efficacy of computerised cognitive-behavioural therapy for anxiety and depression in primary care: randomised controlled trial. British Journal of Psychiatry 185 (1), 46-54). At an estimated price of 70 per patient, the program also appears to be cost effective (for details, see McCrone et al in the same volume).

After running a three month pilot with two GPs in its Taw Hill practice, Swindon PCT has decided to make the package available to all 30 of its GP practices for a total cost of 50,000. Think this proves that they [Ult]hav'nt as one poster said" been giving it away " there are 300 PCTs in this country work it out !!! ps Swindon is one of the smaller PCTs , could someone post this on the iii site as i have'nt got access , many thanks"

simchow well done more positive news

RE: news on note 164 WHO - was there something about interest in Canada?? Any further news?? When they get on with it the price not only will hit the roof but sky!!!! Surely WHO will take interest and then ofcourse it will be a different ball game. I am perhaps building sand castles - but one cannot but wonder what next. p/271

Going fishing............Going fishing!

La La la la la la...........fish fish fish fish fishing!

Pension271: Don't worry, whether they be sand castles or castles in the air, ULT will be along to collect the rent.
sichow: Thanks for an excellent post; I will be circulating this to (sceptical) friends as I did earlier posts from SAM24 & Woodie. I managed to convert 2 members of my investment club in mid summer, which of course , hasn't done my ego any harm.

From the iii bb posted by dougford Thu 19:25

more about Swindon pct


"interesting figure saying approx.400 have used BTB & only 2 negative"

http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/2005/6/10/84670.html

Computer helps beat the blues

From the Evening Advertiser, first published Friday 10th Jun 2005.

PEOPLE wanting to beat depression can get help - without telling GPs their life story.

A computer programme - first tested in Swindon - has proved so successful that boffins want millions of the UK's most-depressed to use it.

Dr Peter Crouch, of Taw Hill Medical Practice, got the programme - called Beating the Blues - last May.

"People often say that they don't like dealing with computers but that's not the case here," said Dr Crouch.

"Computers can't make any judgements about patients -they say it straight."

The programme is suitable for people with a range of conditions, ranging from mild depression to phobias and panic attacks.

Patients are asked to grade their symptoms on a scale of one to eight.

A progress report is then compiled and users are asked to identify particular anxious moments.

The programme introduces case studies of others - who offer their responses to each scenario, helping the user to identify patterns of negative thought.

So far, nearly 400 patients have used the programme at the practice.

Only two patients felt they did not get anything from the experience.

Now the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) has recommended that Beating the Blues be offered as treatment for mild and moderate depression and panic attacks.

The watchdog advised against the use of this treatment in 2002 because of lack of conclusive research.

Dr Crouch said: "Most people are ashamed about their depression and may be reluctant to talk to a person about it.

"This programme is not designed to replace doctors though - it's just another tool.

"We are excited about it and it represented great value for money."

Guidelines state most patients need between six and eight hours of treatment, which costs around 70.

"Congratulations should go to Swindon Primary Care Trust which was forward-thinking enough to take this on," added Dr Crouch.

Big issue

SIX million Britons are thought to be clinically depressed.

In 2002, doctors prescribed 26 million antidepressants such as selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors which is more than double the quantity a decade earlier.

The World Health Organisation recently warned that depression could soon be the second biggest burden on global healthcare, after heart disease.

Kevin Shoesmith

Another post from iii bb by Bahoonies Thu 20:19

"Further research on BTB"

"Found a short interesting article on the website of Telepsychiatry and e-Mental Health which I've copied below together with the relevant internet link.

Beating the Blues

Beating the Blues is an interactive computer based form of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy aimed to help people with mild to moderate anxiety and depression.

It is a drug-free treatment but can be used in conjunction with medication. It provides the therapy in a user-friendly way and does not require any previous knowledge of computers.

There is a 10-minute introductory video for GPs, 15-minute introductory video for the patient. It consists of 8 therapy sessions of about 1 hour each. The users go on to work through 7 cognitive modules according to their specific problems. The final module looks at action planning and relapse prevention.

Beating the Blues features a series of filmed case studies of fictional patients, animations, voice-overs and interactive modules. Interacting with a computer is obviously different to talking to a person. Past experience has shown that the majority of patients find it easy to interact with the computer and find it enjoyable. During the development phase, a lot of effort was put into making the voice-overs sound warm and empathic. Other advantages include the option to go back and repeat sections. The patient can go through the therapy on their own and at their own pace.

The patient receives a weekly progress report and a copy for their GP, therapist, or other clinically responsible party. This gives the patients weekly depression and anxiety ratings and suicidal thoughts and intent. The patient's specific problems and how severe they have been during the week are also printed. The nurse or clinical helper is responsible for checking the patients weekly progress report, which includes some information regarding risk. The patients GP/therapist or other health professional maintains overall responsibility for the patient. All data inputs made by a participant into the computer are confidential.

Beating the Blues has been through significant independent clinical randomised control trials. The results of these trials demonstrate that Beating the Blues is an effective treatment for anxiety and depression, helping patients feel better for longer and be more able to live normal lives both at home and at work than those receiving traditional care.

Beating the Blues is used within National Health Service Primary Care Trusts, Community Mental Health Trusts and specialist CBT services as a treatment option for anxiety and depression.

In SLaM, an evaluation if Beating the Blues was carried out in Croydon, at Gresham 2 Ward. The results of this evaluation can be found at the 'Good Practice Database'.

http://www.telepsychiatry.slam.nhs.uk/Home/BeatingtheBlues/tabid/336/Default.aspx

simchow: Thanks for yet more news from the sharp end. I had been enquiring among health care professionals about the reception that ULT's products might enjoy on the ground, and your posts have greatly helped to fill in the bigger picture. All looking very promising and I'm expecting to see an sp of 3p again before long.

I hope so squidd am watching ULT and the time may come soon to join in.

squidd, have to thank the posters on iii bb for the above post I just copied and paste it over here to spread the word............

if you are interested more reading material from dougford posted on the iii bb posted today at 1726hrs

"Britains Biggest Health Problem"

" if anyone wants some serious reading matter for the weekend - Lord Layard former head of LSE spoke of using BTB in his article
Mental Health: Britains Biggest Health Problem (Richard Layard) (pdf, 416kb)
http://www.strategy.gov.uk/seminars/mental_health/index.asp
are the company aware of his interest - yes

we are also mentioned in this
http://www.fic.nih.gov/dcpp/wps.html
article - no36. PDF
An International Review of Cost-Effectiveness Studies for Mental Disorders"

PpP: I think for you to buy ULT would be a good idea. Free PR of the sort now being posted by simchow, and numerous citations seem to be popping up everywhere. This one could soon again test the 3p level and then zoom up to 5p.
sd.

news of new contract on ult web site.

pbo

From ult website http://www.ultrasis.com/

5th September 2005

ON-LINE HEALTH CARE RELIEF SECURED FOR CHORLEY RESIDENTS


Chorley and South Ribble Primary Care Trust has today confirmed an order for a new generation of multimedia health care programs, developed by interactive health care specialists Ultrasis plc. The Relief Series will enable GPs to offer patients suffering from anxiety, depression, stress and insomnia access to interactive self-help tools 24 hours a day.

The order will provide more than 200,000 residents registered at any of the 36 practices within the PCT, with access to a series of programs through a dedicated web site. Patients will be able to use the interactive tools free of charge with the help of a user name and password provided through their GP.

The Relief Series has been developed by Ultrasis over a number of years and utilises proven Computerised Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CCBT) techniques and illustrates problem examples and best practice solutions using flash movie animation. All programs are easy to use and are available at any time, appealing particularly to busy people and those who prefer to access the treatment from the privacy of their own home.

Judith Faux, Chief Executive of Chorley and South Ribble PCT said; These programs are really easy to use and we hope that people will find them useful. They will complement our existing services, particularly because they can be used at any time of day or night by people who might not otherwise approach their GP or healthcare professional.

Ultrasis Sales Director John Smith commented; We are confident that the Relief Series will add a new dimension to the services of Chorley and South Ribble PCT. The deal covers an initial one year license, but Im delighted that we are already discussing a possible two year extension to the contract.

For further information about Ultrasis, please contact Dr Charlie Martin or Graham Lewis on telephone +44 (0)20 7566 3900 or email to info@ultrasis.com

strange no RNS

yes, here it is, they must release RNS about this?
http://www.ultrasis.com/news/2005/05-september-2005.htm

I think that's a fantastic bit of news from Chorley because it suggests that a national roll-out could be on massive scale, whilst a global roll-out scarcely bears thinking about. Think I'll be topping up in the morning.
sd.

Are these figures close or are they no where near????........


post on advfn by kevsdad - 6 Sep'05 - 17:27 - 15463 of 15468

"RI posted this on 29th Aug it shows a remarkable similar out come to jayestoms calculations! realistic value on Ultrasis . 1/ Graham Lewis has stated on the Ult website that there are over 100 sites using ultrasis products already, 71 of these are PCTs . 2/PCTs would pay for a multi 20 copy licence of BtB as these work out cheaper per person than a single licence , 20 copy licence cost 34000 which would cover 750 people ,single copy licence cost 6000 which would cover 37 people. 3/ Most PCTs have between 100,000 to 150000 people in their catchment area. 4/ Lets say 10% of these people will need some pyschiactric help at some stage of their lives.so we have 10,000-15000 people need this help , not all of course would be suitable for this treatment. and not all at the same time . GL has said 1in 6 will need BtB so this is a conservative estimate ! 5/There are approx 300 PCTs in England and wales .all will have to take this option in the not to distant future . Probally next year at the latest . 6/ Lets say for argument sake that these 71 PCTs which are already using BtB have only taken 1 or 2 multi licences because it is a new product and did'nt have the official NICE recommendation when they bought BtB , 8/ so we have 71 x 2 x 34000= 4828000 9/ The other 29 sites using ultrasis software would probally only buy 1 multi licence , which would be 29 x 34000 = 986000. 10es are going well in the states[the recent news about the SUNY project can only improve these figures but i won't bring that into my calculation until we have positive news] and Canada so we can expect some income from them say 500000, 11/ So we have earnings for this year of 4828000 + 986000+500000 = 6314000 12/ with a average AIM pe ratio of 12 thats 6314000 x 12 =75768000 13/ That leaves us with a market cap of 75,768,000 which gives a share price of about 6p after the next results . Of course this is all just my opinion and the figures could be a bit lower or substatially higher , but i think if you see my calculations above they don't take account of the fact that most PCTs will have to buy in the region of 10 or 12 licences to cover their regions, you may not agree with the things i have said but at least i am trying to give a reasoned argument to why i am holding Ultrasis shares and not just because my mate said buy some because there going to fly . "

most of the deals struck were done before april of this year , they will be below the figs quoted as the co was struggling for cash. the idea was to get some sort of revenue into the co.

You are not alone WOODIE, the news are good and should get better,also this stock is very,very liquid and for a minnow it has a surprisingly small spread and even without Level 2 it`s easy to deal inside the spread. I use Squaregain as my dealing platform.

zeibcmva welcome aboard just shows are the co has progressed you can now spreadbet on the co with ig index ,spreadex the spread is worse then the cash market.