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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

aldwickk - 15 Jun 2012 11:41 - 17125 of 81564

That's Right let's all joke about Alzheimer's

skinny - 15 Jun 2012 11:47 - 17126 of 81564

Now here is a man with 'selective' memory.

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Fred1new - 15 Jun 2012 11:58 - 17127 of 81564

Alds,

Just forget about it!

TANKER - 15 Jun 2012 12:00 - 17128 of 81564

the women arrested in pakistan why have they not arrested the two men .
then hang the three together or is it OK in pakistan for just women to be hanged
hang them all.

TANKER - 15 Jun 2012 12:01 - 17129 of 81564

we do not want thhem back here. parasites and scum

Fred1new - 15 Jun 2012 12:17 - 17130 of 81564

Tanker,

Are you any better?

Haystack - 15 Jun 2012 12:21 - 17131 of 81564

Ed Balls memory sems to fade when it comes to the extent that he support the mad Brown.

TANKER - 15 Jun 2012 12:45 - 17132 of 81564

fred honest asthe day I was born .if it is mine I do not touch it. I do not like druggies
and hate dealers even more hang them all and rid the world of these evil people

TANKER - 15 Jun 2012 15:50 - 17133 of 81564

gold to lose its sparkle .it is going to fall big time

Fred1new - 15 Jun 2012 16:32 - 17134 of 81564

Must have been an immaculate delivery!

greekman - 15 Jun 2012 16:55 - 17135 of 81564

The best blame game I ever heard was this one.

A mother of a youth being sentenced for his umpteenth burglary said this to a Crown Court Judge when the youths criminal record had been read out.

The only reason my son has a criminal record, is because the police keep locking him up.
I remember that even the Judge could not stop himself laughing.

The troubling thing was, the woman was being serious and couldn't see what was so funny.
Actually I suppose she was right.

Fred1new - 16 Jun 2012 14:06 - 17136 of 81564

Why after being locked up for the umpteenth time was he still offending?

required field - 16 Jun 2012 14:17 - 17137 of 81564

Have to say : isn't "The Shard" a magnificent building ?......looks fabulous.....a few more like that would grace the london skyline.....perhaps one day a fixed link between the UK and Northern Ireland will be on the agenda with a fast rail lin London to Dublin via this link.....also for the future how about the winter olympics being awarded to Edinburgh....with a little help from our Norwegian friends for the ski-jumps and a few other events....most of them could be held in Scotland in january-february.....also....a fixed link from Wales to Southern Eire....and I don't see why not ?.....check out the proposed link from Japan to South Korea and to China !.....think big...longterm.....

Davai - 16 Jun 2012 15:47 - 17138 of 81564

Reading here about different opinions of each party. No-one seems to understand. It doesn't matter who is in power, the country is broke.

The current government at least is trying hard to cut down the unsustainable spending, but guess what? No-one sat at home on benefits likes it. Labour stand up and say we are worse off under a conservative government and yet Blair and Brown jointly crippled us over the past ten years.
Instead of reducing Britains debt whilst the going was good, they spent more and more... benefits for everyone, hey, come to Britain, we will give you a house and enough to live on...

Its inbred in the vast majority of the population. Why should i work for 50 hours a week and be worse off than her next door with two kids, who does naff all and yet still has enough for sky TV, decent furniture and can afford a night out or two a week down town?

The point is, no government can win, cos the average joe doesn't understand the state of the economy. Introduce austerity and you'll not last more than a term. Just keep printing guys, that's how we got in this mess in the first place, but we are now well past the point of no return...

Britain is running out of credit cards. Inflation is the only answer. Wait until interest rates start rising, but without wages and the job situation improving to match. Nice to have a £120/150/200k mortgage then... The real problems haven't even begun yet.

You could earn £500 a week as a builder 20 years ago and buy a house for £40k. Earnings haven't changed but that same house is £150k+ now. The difference? Lower interest rates. Nice, providing interest rates stay low, but with printing presses working overtime, whats the end game?

doodlebug - 16 Jun 2012 16:47 - 17139 of 81564

Good post Davai. The "average joe" seems to be quite happy to spend lots of money on a season ticket to watch a very average football team playing mostly very average football! It's about time these overpaid footballers got a reality check. There's far too much money dished out by various banks and companies on sports sponsorship in this country imo - the average tax payer is footing (sorry about the pun) the bill for all this nonsense. BT has just spent a fortune on a deal with Sky - BT customers just watch your phone bills go up!

And I agree with you, Blair & Brown had a long time to get it right and failed - despite that, they very nearly won the last election. If Blair had still been the leader of the Labour party they possibly would have won.

aldwickk - 16 Jun 2012 19:26 - 17140 of 81564

yes , Good post Davai

aldwickk - 16 Jun 2012 19:32 - 17141 of 81564

chuckles - 16 Jun 2012 20:22 - 17142 of 81564

Populist Policies?

No one allowed into the country unless they have an assured job (whether from Eu or elsewhere)
If someone from EU becomes unemployed and want to stay here, will only receive the same benefit they would get in their own country.
if someone from outside Eu become unemployed, no benefit and either live on savings or go back home.
No one from EU entitled to free healthcare unless their own country offers same service
From outside EU no free healthcare at all, stay at home.
Leave EU or at the very least reduce power from Brussels
If staying in EU, MEP expenses public and accountable
Anyone from EU or elsewhere committing a crime, shipped back to own country to serve sentence.
English is our language, why should we spend money providing Urdu speakers, translating stuff into a foreign language if you can't be bothered to learn ours.
Judges introduced to the real world
All universities allowed to set entrance exams - reduced numbers gaining entry would allow govt to re-introduce free univeristy education.
Any radicals preaching hate, shipped out, no arguments.
Rebecca Brookes forced to have a hair cut

Fred1new - 16 Jun 2012 21:35 - 17143 of 81564

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Fred1new - 16 Jun 2012 21:35 - 17144 of 81564

Davai,
"Instead of reducing Britains debt whilst the going was good, they spent more and
more... benefits for everyone, hey, come to Britain, we will give you a house and enough to live on..".


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History often is a b.. and bites back.

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If the Thatcher government hadn't sold of the "Nation's Silver" (McMillan), at prices grossly below their probable values to subsidised the "taxation “reforms”, or “reductions", and rewarding the more wealthy in society, then they may have been able to "repair" and upgrade the "infrastructure" and lousy state of NHS, social services, schools etc. which had been degraded during the “tory” controlled government for 15years period up to the 1997 election.

Also, if the revenue from North Sea “Oil” had not been squandered and been utilised to upgrade the above, then the decline in heavy and medium industry (destroyed during the Thatcher period) may have been moderated. (“It’s alright, the pit-head baths is a super-market now” comes to mind.)

Instead, during that period we had the rush to the Financial Services, which served well for a short term "buck". (Unfortunately, they provided the environment for some of the problems, which started becoming evident 2005- to the present period. (Blair and Gordon, were walking on water, egged on by a large percentage of the country, including many of those in the tory party, who were often demanding greater financial de-regulation and at the same time working for the “destruction” of the “EC”. , rather than working for “reformation” and improvement in its structure. (They were “in” Europe, not for its possible potential, or its long term benefits, but were attempting to get as much short term gain from it as possible, as they thought advantageous for themselves. Rather than considering what would be for the benefits for the whole of “Europe”, many were considering immediate gratification as their goals. Britain was not the only guilty party, but the UK and some of the other countries are responsible for the present debacle. There were some in politicians in the UK as well as some European leaders calling out for greater “financial and fiscal” regulations. If they latter had been successful then the present problems may have been avoided.

The “wealth fare and social services” and “social services” are necessary “evils”, with all or some of their weaknesses and failings. Many will have to resort to them, even though they may not think so at the moment.

There are abuses, but trying to remedy them without provoking other unforeseen problems is difficult. Sometimes, there is a protective use to blind eye.
I can recall with friends ruminating forty to fifty years ago on “how” to make changes, or stop the “abuse of society” by the “social services” and by the “individuals”, who thought or, felt they depended on them. Often, it seemed that to be successful, that we would have to become the abusers.

Again, defining abuse, or abusers, often depended, on where you are standing at the moment.

A few questions which puzzle me are:

1) Where has all the money which has disappeared from the market gone, and if this is being held as “cash”?
2) If it is, is the “cash” being devalued. (Perhaps, the reason for the squawking against QE and printing money.)
3) In that the government is now suggesting that an increased in “borrowing” is the now the “in thing” and good for the public once again, is the bunch in power at the moment, just another of money lenders?
4) Although, I believe in the market, is there a limit to how long the economy and wealth of a country can dependant on its simple GDP? (Does infinity exist.)

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Time for my glass of wine!
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